Rudy’s a No-Go

nationalreview.com ^ | February 6, 2007 | Terence P. Jeffrey

[Jim Noble]

President Bush did.

Only because he doesn't mean it.

[hosepipe]

Simply..... Its Newt Gingrich for President -OR-..
The Republican party WILL fracture to smithereens..

George Bush(both of them) (and Bob Dole) cured many die hard pubbies(LIKE ME)..
Hillary gets elected?.. so what.. odds are she will get elected ANYWAY..
Bush BARELY WON both times..

2000 he ran against a moron and in 2004 against a longfaced traitor..
How convient.. I refuse to be herded like a sheep(anymore)..
If Newt don't make thru the primarys I'm going 3rd party..
Newt seems to be the ONLY pubbie with gravitas..

The republican party is ALREADY fractured the RINO pundits are oblivious (as usual)..
2008 is Hillarys to lose.. She won't.. and Bush WILL NOT address the border..
Its Newt Gingrich or the republican party is thru..

Hope the Constitution Party will have time to do something..
before they are OUTLAWED.. and its leaders liquidated..

[BibChr]

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[Beagle8U]

"Only because he doesn't mean it."

Rather weak. First you say nobody can, then when faced with the fact that President Bush did you say he doesn't mean it...lol

[sick1]

Conservative or not, the author really twists the concept that Rudy was making at the time. Rudy's police enforcement program was based in part on the Broken Window Theory. The theory states that small, seemingly inconsequential law breaking set an environment for much larger law breaking. While I don't like it, currently partial birth infanticide is the law of the land.
If the author wanted to write an article stating that Rudy is too pro-life, he could have done it without revealing himself as an intellectual lightweight to lazy to do basic research into the premise on which he based his article. As far as Rudy for prez, I'm unsure myself. I'd like someone more conservative but I balance that against the potential that he may have coattails. If we could get more conservatives into congress (which he'll be obliged to campaign for like made to keep his base secure during the election) and take back the house and senate with some real leaders (Pence vs. Bohner) I'd be happy with Rudy. He's a conservative until it comes to social issues. But Rudy as the man holding the line against a strongly liberal congress, not so good past the war on terror and maybe 2-3 more SC judges. But then again, all things beat president Hillary or Obama.

[moose2004]

Unfortunately neither one has a prayer of winning.

[nepppen]

The key is maintaining our current strenght or better in the senate. It doesn't matter what happens we can block, block, and did i mention block.

[Russ]

If Newt is the nominee it will be the biggest Republican loss since Goldwater. The big money guys and power brokers and Northeast Rinos will sit on their wallets and let him sink. You might as well face it, it's either going to be Mitt or Rudy with McCain as a long shot. My money is on Rudy.

[RockinRight]

Rudy's got a LOT of work to do to convince me that he's worthy of my vote.

Yeah, when it comes down to it, I'd vote for him over Hillary. But I'm sick of friggin' RINOs. And sick of the Mexican invasion, and excessive taxation, and homo celebration...

[newzjunkey]

Rudy is not a serious candidate. He's been a federal prosecutor and a *MAYOR*. His record and positions are barely in the same universe as the Republican platform.

[dleecomeback07]

And anyone who stays home or votes for Hillary or Obama in november 08 is not a conservative either if Rudy is the republican candidate.

Anyone that would vote for any democrat or stay at home because the republican is not everything you agree with is not only not a conservative but hates this country.

I love my country more than I am a one issue conservative.

Having an IQ above 5 I know that while I don't agree with him or McCain on everything I know I agree with them on everything more than Hillary or Obama and it would be 10,000 times worse with one of them in the WH.

Of course we have the stay at homes who voted against our troops last November because they hate our troops.

[dleecomeback07]

Why is hating our contry conservative? And wanting Hillary in the WH is hating our country.

I also am pro life. But I am more pro American and am concerned with having the best president we can. With Hillary I know that we have no chance at all of seeing anything happening. With Rudy there is a slim chance.

Hillary will set pro life backwards. At worst Rudy will have it stagnate.

[CommerceComet]

That said, I want a conservative in office, not a stealth liberal. I will vote for Rudy if he makes it through the primaries, but I am hoping he doesn't. Then, it will be to keep Hillary out. What we need is a true-blue (or should I say red) conservative candidate, not a watered down version of conservatism.

Rudy isn't my first choice either but I see no reason for personal attacks on him. Several people (not accusing you) immediately yell cross-dresser, abortionist, gun-grabber, and other simplistic insults when Rudy's name is mentioned.

It makes no sense to me to tear Rudy to pieces when it is possible that he will be our nominee. Why ruin him in the primaries so he is damaged goods for the general election? Do we want to destroy the only thing that might stand between us and a President Hillary Clinton?

I could see two good reasons to vote for Rudy. He gets it on the WOT. He would appoint strict constitutionalists to the court.

[dleecomeback07]

That's my point and why I will vote for any repub over Hillary or Obama or Edwards.

Rudy and McCain agree with me on other issues and will come closer to my stance than Hillary or Barack ever will.

I love my country more than I am a conservative.

And my oldest will be almost draft age when Hillary would leave office. That really scares me.

[deport]

I will vote for him if he makes it past the primaries. Then, and only then, it will be to keep out Hitlery.

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That's a good way to look at the situation because reality says that it will either be the Republican or Democrat nominee that will be elected President in 08. And that eleciton may well be for a tenure of two terms in addition to a SCOTUS appointment or two.

The primary ought to be fought hard with no holds barred and let the chips fall where they may. The primary voters will not be ignorant of the issues, what the candidates stand for, etc. Once they have spoken in each state then the nominee should have the support of the Party and it's members.

I will support the nominee with my vote in Nov. 08. At this stage I'm not sure who I'll support in the primary. But I don't think tearing each candidate to shreds with inter party fighting does the final objective any good. That objective to me is to keep the Democrats from controlling both houses of Congress and the Presidency. At this stage I think the Presidency is the one we can most likely keep out of their control in 08.

Good luck with your candidate....

[dleecomeback07]

Since when is hating America conservative?

if you would vote to elect Hillary or Barack you hate america.

[Clemenza]

Let's not forget that Rudy is unqualified to be President, as he was not born, nor does he live in AMERICA!

[dleecomeback07]

That's my point.

I love my country more than I think someone has to agree with me on every issue.

And I know because I have an IQ above 5 that Rudy will come closer to agreeing with me on issues than Clintoon or Obama will.

At worst with Rudy we stagnate on abortion. With Hillary we'll be set way way back.

[dleecomeback07]

I support and actually will volunteer for Newt or possibly Hunter or Romney until the primaries. I like them over Rudy.

But I am voting for the republican no matter who esp over Hillary or Barack in November 08.

Another thing is our best chance at beating either dem front runner is either Rudy or McCain.

My country comes before anything else.

[JmyBryan]

Yeah, other than that little Muslim fundamentalist problem, everything is freakin' hunky-dory.