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The Hydrogen Hoax
The New Atlantis.com ^ | February 8, 2007 | by Robert Zubrin

Posted on 02/08/2007 12:58:09 PM PST by aculeus

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1 posted on 02/08/2007 12:58:11 PM PST by aculeus
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To: aculeus

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2 posted on 02/08/2007 12:59:47 PM PST by dangerdoc (dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
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To: aculeus

Bookmark to see what I can learn from FReeper engineers and scientists.


3 posted on 02/08/2007 1:01:46 PM PST by BenLurkin
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To: aculeus

---ah so--from the hydrogen hoax to the ethanol hoax---


4 posted on 02/08/2007 1:01:50 PM PST by rellimpank (-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
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To: aculeus

Zubrin has had a remarkable insight at least once. He better stay on the Mars campaign trail since that project is flagging.


5 posted on 02/08/2007 1:01:51 PM PST by RightWhale (300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
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To: Shuttle Shucker; KevinDavis; Red Badger

Hydrogen ping


6 posted on 02/08/2007 1:04:20 PM PST by anymouse
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To: Uncledave; sully777; Fierce Allegiance; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; ..

Hydrogen Fuel PING!......


7 posted on 02/08/2007 1:06:14 PM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: aculeus
If you want to get plentiful unbound hydrogen, the closest place it can be found is on the surface of the Sun; mining this hydrogen supply would be quite a trick.

We would have to work at night. ;o)

8 posted on 02/08/2007 1:07:13 PM PST by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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Thanx.....But what about all that WATER VAPOR! It's a greenhouse gas!..........We're all gonna die!.........


9 posted on 02/08/2007 1:07:21 PM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: aculeus

Yes. The science in this article is accurate. Essentially all the hydrogen is combined with oxygen in water.
Separating the two takes energy, more energy than is obtained when the hydrogen and oxygen are recombined in the burning process.

There is no easy solution to the energy problem. Whatever the solution is, I don't know of any politician able to say anything sensible about the subject. Eventually the free market will solve the problem.


10 posted on 02/08/2007 1:13:35 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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To: aculeus

A paerfect example of lying with the truth.

Small, safer, boilerplate nuclear
plants, designed for the task,
can produce hydrogen in abundant
supply, without breaking a sweat.


11 posted on 02/08/2007 1:15:24 PM PST by NickatNite2003 (From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
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He neglected to mention that the largest contributor to green house gasses is - water vapor, the only output of an engine that burns hydrogen.


12 posted on 02/08/2007 1:15:32 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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To: aculeus
What is needed is government action to break the vertical monopoly on the automobile fuel supply currently held by the petroleum cartel.

And this guy accuses others of being charlatans? LOL. What a crock. Yes, there's a petroleum cartel, but it's not a virtical monoply. The only thing that has been cartelized has been crude production (OPEC). The refining and distribution businesses are highly competitive. This guy needs to study some economics.

This could most efficiently be done simply by mandating that all new cars—whether of foreign or domestic manufacture—sold in the United States be “flex-fueled.”

This idiot is pushing ethanol? Obviously his skills for identifying hoaxes aren't very good.

13 posted on 02/08/2007 1:17:36 PM PST by curiosity
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To: aculeus

We'll have to use vegetable oil....


14 posted on 02/08/2007 1:17:47 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: aculeus
The whale oil salesmen talking about how crude oil will never be better than whale oil.

The laughing crowd says man will never fly.

It's impossible for man to reach the moon, too, didn't you hear?
15 posted on 02/08/2007 1:17:57 PM PST by mysterio
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To: patton
He neglected to mention that the largest contributor to green house gasses is - water vapor, the only output of an engine that burns hydrogen.

And water, unlike CO2, actually affects the climate!

16 posted on 02/08/2007 1:19:41 PM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
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To: aculeus

Hydrogen would work as a fuel IF the government subsidized a nation-wide network of monorails!

Also, has anyone considered re-visiting Swift's idea of distilling sunbeams from cucumbers - that would be a great cottage industry!

Surely, the US government can afford to invest a few paltry dollars pried from the grasping fingers of Republicans to save planet Earth and all who sail on her!

uh.../sarc.


17 posted on 02/08/2007 1:20:11 PM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
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To: RightWhale; aculeus

Exhibit "A" in my campaign for a law that "Greek Fisherman's Caps Should Only Be Worn By Greek Fishermen."

18 posted on 02/08/2007 1:20:18 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Red Badger

My ping got lost with all the Anna pings and replies.


19 posted on 02/08/2007 1:21:32 PM PST by Fierce Allegiance ("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
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To: aculeus

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20 posted on 02/08/2007 1:22:17 PM PST by tfecw (It's for the children)
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