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The Hydrogen Hoax
The New Atlantis.com ^
| February 8, 2007
| by Robert Zubrin
Posted on 02/08/2007 12:58:09 PM PST by aculeus
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posted on
02/08/2007 12:58:11 PM PST
by
aculeus
To: aculeus
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posted on
02/08/2007 12:59:47 PM PST
by
dangerdoc
(dangerdoc (not actually dangerous any more))
To: aculeus
Bookmark to see what I can learn from FReeper engineers and scientists.
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:01:46 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
To: aculeus
---ah so--from the hydrogen hoax to the ethanol hoax---
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:01:50 PM PST
by
rellimpank
(-don't believe anything the MSM states about firearms or explosives--NRA Benefactor)
To: aculeus
Zubrin has had a remarkable insight at least once. He better stay on the Mars campaign trail since that project is flagging.
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:01:51 PM PST
by
RightWhale
(300 miles north of Big Wild Life)
To: Shuttle Shucker; KevinDavis; Red Badger
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:04:20 PM PST
by
anymouse
To: Uncledave; sully777; Fierce Allegiance; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; ..
Hydrogen Fuel PING!......
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:06:14 PM PST
by
Red Badger
(Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
To: aculeus
If you want to get plentiful unbound hydrogen, the closest place it can be found is on the surface of the Sun; mining this hydrogen supply would be quite a trick. We would have to work at night. ;o)
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:07:13 PM PST
by
mbynack
(Retired USAF SMSgt)
To: anymouse
Thanx.....But what about all that WATER VAPOR! It's a greenhouse gas!..........We're all gonna die!.........
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:07:21 PM PST
by
Red Badger
(Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
To: aculeus
Yes. The science in this article is accurate. Essentially all the hydrogen is combined with oxygen in water.
Separating the two takes energy, more energy than is obtained when the hydrogen and oxygen are recombined in the burning process.
There is no easy solution to the energy problem. Whatever the solution is, I don't know of any politician able to say anything sensible about the subject. Eventually the free market will solve the problem.
To: aculeus
A paerfect example of lying with the truth.
Small, safer, boilerplate nuclear
plants, designed for the task,
can produce hydrogen in abundant
supply, without breaking a sweat.
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:15:24 PM PST
by
NickatNite2003
(From the Man from Hope" to the wife who snarls "Abandon All Hope!")
To: BenLurkin
He neglected to mention that the largest contributor to green house gasses is - water vapor, the only output of an engine that burns hydrogen.
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:15:32 PM PST
by
patton
(Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
To: aculeus
What is needed is government action to break the vertical monopoly on the automobile fuel supply currently held by the petroleum cartel. And this guy accuses others of being charlatans? LOL. What a crock. Yes, there's a petroleum cartel, but it's not a virtical monoply. The only thing that has been cartelized has been crude production (OPEC). The refining and distribution businesses are highly competitive. This guy needs to study some economics.
This could most efficiently be done simply by mandating that all new carswhether of foreign or domestic manufacturesold in the United States be flex-fueled.
This idiot is pushing ethanol? Obviously his skills for identifying hoaxes aren't very good.
To: aculeus
We'll have to use vegetable oil....
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:17:47 PM PST
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
To: aculeus
The whale oil salesmen talking about how crude oil will never be better than whale oil.
The laughing crowd says man will never fly.
It's impossible for man to reach the moon, too, didn't you hear?
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:17:57 PM PST
by
mysterio
To: patton
He neglected to mention that the largest contributor to green house gasses is - water vapor, the only output of an engine that burns hydrogen. And water, unlike CO2, actually affects the climate!
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:19:41 PM PST
by
Irish_Thatcherite
(Apathy is one of the most dangerous ideologies in existence!)
To: aculeus
Hydrogen would work as a fuel IF the government subsidized a nation-wide network of monorails!
Also, has anyone considered re-visiting Swift's idea of distilling sunbeams from cucumbers - that would be a great cottage industry!
Surely, the US government can afford to invest a few paltry dollars pried from the grasping fingers of Republicans to save planet Earth and all who sail on her!
uh.../sarc.
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:20:11 PM PST
by
headsonpikes
(Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism.)
To: RightWhale; aculeus
Exhibit "A" in my campaign for a law that "Greek Fisherman's Caps Should Only Be Worn By Greek Fishermen."
To: Red Badger
My ping got lost with all the Anna pings and replies.
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:21:32 PM PST
by
Fierce Allegiance
("Campers laugh at clowns behind closed doors." GOHUNTER08!)
To: aculeus
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posted on
02/08/2007 1:22:17 PM PST
by
tfecw
(It's for the children)
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