Posted on 02/05/2007 6:00:44 PM PST by Howlin
On right now...
A case study for you from Oregon.
I know a lot of people here think Oregon is some left-wing kook paradise, but it is actually fairly reflective of the nation as a whole, but marginally more Democrat. Pres. Bush only lost Oregon in 2000 by a few thousand votes.
This past election, we nominated Ron Saxton to be the GOP candidate for governor. I voted for Jason Atkinson in the primary, but I bought into the argument that Saxton was the most "electable" GOP candidate in a generation. After all, he was facing a Democrat incumbent that was one of the weakest incumbent governors in the country. I supported Saxton, and contributed money to his campaign.
Saxton is pro-abortion ("pro-choice"), although he is at least against partial birth abortion, and for parental notification. His record on other issues of particular interest to conservatives was a mixed bag. He tried to position himself to the right of his former self, of course. He made an issue out of illegal immigration.
I wrestled with it, but supported him because I thought that he was the best of a rather meager slate of candidates. A pro-life conservative radio talk show host ran on the Constitution Party ticket, but she is pretty much a kook, believing in contrails and such.
Rudy Giuliani came out to Oregon and campaigned for Saxton.
In the end, Saxton lost badly. The Constitution Party candidate got 3-1/2%, but even if you added all the third party votes to Saxton's, he wouldn't have had enough to win.
The fact is, pro-life voters and certain other conservatives who were suspicious of Saxton's true views simply stayed home. It might not have been the right or smart thing to do, but that's out of our control. That's what actually happens.
That is what I'm afraid of if someone like Giuliani gets the GOP nomination.
Don't think we would be around long if we spammed like that because the abuse button would be hit over and over again. I am not about to hit the abuse button because I prefer Freepers and lurkers to see how ludicrous all the spam is! :)
Yep. You will seldom go wrong when you agree with me. That' what I keep telling people, anyway. Thanks! ;-)
Thanks for that information. I remember thinking exactly the same think when I first saw those pictures.
Teach me how to Look down my nose at fellow Republicans, just like that! You must be SOOOOOOOO Proud to be a True Conservative!
Pray for W and Our Troops
Don't ever become a chemist. You can't experiment with the truth.
You shouldn't be surprised to see Hillary! go on Hannity & Colmes and be interviewed by Sean. She only goes where she knows the questions and knows she will be handled with kid gloves, and after listening to Sean and Schumer, Hillary! may be his next big interview.
Hi Howlin. I've read a lot of the thread and have a pretty good handle on the various viewpoints. I don't have a dog in this fight as I don't plan on supporting anyone at this point in the game. However, I am seeing the many instances of social liberalism from Rudy from the 90s. Don't you imagine that 9/11 had a profound effect on Rudy? I'm guessing that he became a lot more conservative during that event. That being said, he does have a certain amount of the Italian charm.
On Sally J. Rafael she stated that she didn't want to carry that day. It was her decision. The gun was in her car. Why? She may have falsely felt safe, didn't want to have it in the presence of her parents, I don't remember her reason. How long has Sally J. Rafael been off the air?
Was that Victoria Taft, perchance?
I was thinking what you said about drooling and remembered the night that I said I thought Jeb was the best looking in the family. Boy did I get clobbered! :)
Me too, I have considered the same thing.
Hey...even Rudy said tonight that not all conservatives would vote for him...nor all Republicans.
Hard to believe, eh?
You should see some of the Rudy threads. Why some people started out with spam in black and white and in a couple days changed it all to truly interior decorator inspired colors.
Calling Sherwin Williams, calling Sherwin Williams--please report to the FR Rudy threads! ;-)
My recollection was that there was a reason she didn't bring it in, perhaps no carry permit, or alcohol served (at a Shoneys?). I don't remember.
Ha ha ha ha ha...NO! Victoria is a pretty run-of-the-mill Republican.
The Constitution Party candidate was Mary Starrett.
it has to be more then just "her choice" - that was a landmark incident in changing concealed carry laws. if there were no restrictions, it would have been just a passing story.
Hahaha! ;-)
Thank you so much, Victoria... love 'em all!
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