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Global warming or global cooling?
The Times of India ^ | February 4, 2007 | Staff

Posted on 02/04/2007 7:06:15 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy

Almost as soon as the Kyoto Protocol on global warming came into effect on February 15, Kashmir suffered the highest snowfall in three decades with over 150 killed, and Mumbai recorded the lowest temperature in 40 years. Had temperatures been the highest for decades, newspapers would have declared this was proof of global warming. But whenever temperatures drop, the press keeps quiet.

Things were different in 1940-70, when there was global cooling. Every cold winter then was hailed as proof of a coming new Ice Age. But the moment cooling was replaced by warming, a new disaster in the opposite direction was proclaimed.

A recent Washington Post article gave this scientist's quote from 1972. "We simply cannot afford to gamble. We cannot risk inaction. The scientists who disagree are acting irresponsibly. The indications that our climate can soon change for the worse are too strong to be reasonably ignored." The warning was not about global warming (which was not happening): it was about global cooling!

In the media, disaster is news, and its absence is not. This principle has been exploited so skillfully by ecological scare-mongers that it is now regarded as politically incorrect, even unscientific, to denounce global warming hysteria as unproven speculation.

Meteorologists are a standing joke for getting predictions wrong even a few days ahead. The same jokers are being taken seriously when they use computer models to predict the weather 100 years hence.

The models have not been tested for reliability over 100 years, or even 20 years. Different models yield variations in warming of 400%, which means they are statistically meaningless.

Wassily Leontief, Nobel prize winner for modeling, said this about the limits of models. "We move from more or less plausible but really arbitrary assumptions, to elegantly demonstrated but irrelevant conclusions." Exactly. Assume continued warming as in the last three decades, and you get a warming disaster. Assume more episodes of global cooling, and you get a cooling disaster.

In his latest best seller State of Fear, Michael Crichton does a devastating expose of the way ecological groups have tweaked data and facts to create mass hysteria. He points out that we know astonishingly little about the environment. All sides make exaggerated claims.

We know that atmospheric carbon is increasing. We are also in the midst of a natural warming trend that started in 1850 at the end of what is called the Little Ice Age. It is scientifically impossible to prove whether the subsequent warming is natural or man-made.

Greens say, rightly, that the best scientific assessment today is that global warming is occurring. Yet never in history have scientists accurately predicted what will happen 100 years later. A century ago no scientists predicted the internet, microwave ovens, TV, nuclear explosions or antibiotics. It is impossible, even stupid, to predict the distant future.

That scientific truth is rarely mentioned. Why? Because the global warming movement has now become a multi-billion dollar enterprise with thousands of jobs and millions in funding for NGOs and think-tanks, top jobs and prizes for scientists, and huge media coverage for predictions of disaster.

The vested interests in the global warming theory are now as strong, rich and politically influential as the biggest multinationals. It is no co-incidence, says Crichton, that so many scientists sceptical of global warming are retired professors: they have no need to chase research grants and chairs.

I have long been an agnostic on global warming: the evidence is ambiguous. But I almost became a convert when Greenpeace publicised photos showing the disastrously rapid retreat of the Upsala Glacier in Argentina. How disastrous, I thought, if this was the coming fate of all glaciers.

Then last Christmas, I went on vacation to Lake Argentina. The Upsala glacier and six other glaciers descend from the South Andean icefield into the lake. I was astounded to discover that while the Upsala glacier had retreated rapidly, the other glaciers showed little movement, and one had advanced across the lake into the Magellan peninsula. If in the same area some glaciers advance and others retreat, the cause is clearly not global warming but local micro-conditions.

Yet the Greenpeace photos gave the impression that glaciers in general were in rapid retreat. It was a con job, a dishonest effort to mislead. From the same icefield, another major glacier spilling into Chile has grown 60% in volume.

Greenpeace and other ecological groups have well-intentioned people with high ideals. But as crusaders they want to win by any means, honest or not. I do not like being taken for a ride, by idealists or anyone else.

We need impartial research, funded neither by MNCs, governmental groups or NGOs with private agendas. And the media needs to stop highlighting disaster scares and ignoring exposes of the scares.


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To: Bubba_Leroy

Globalogna.


21 posted on 02/04/2007 7:31:42 PM PST by jwalsh07 (Duncan Hunter for President)
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To: quantim
It's minus +/- 10 below in the upper Midwest tonight

Well, THAT certainly clears things up!

;->

22 posted on 02/04/2007 7:36:14 PM PST by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
I guess these guys didn't get the joke: "Everyone complains about the weather, but no one does anything about it."

Guys, ah, ..., it's a joke. J....O.....K.....E, joke. We didn't mean for you to go out there and try to do something about the weather. It changes everyday. It gets hotter, then it gets cooler. Some years are hotter, some decades are cooler. It happens, it's the weather. I hope this helps, you scientists can now go out there and do something worthwhile.

23 posted on 02/04/2007 7:38:06 PM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

...global warming. For a few years, I've been following astonomers and other physicists who study the sun. They say that we're in a long-term warm cycle. It's something that we'll have to live with, until something happens to cool the earth (more smoke, ash or dust in the atmosphere or the like). ...or until we go into a cooler part of the cycle.


24 posted on 02/04/2007 7:44:42 PM PST by familyop
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To: Bubba_Leroy
Weather forcasting - Astrology with numbers....
25 posted on 02/04/2007 7:46:45 PM PST by GoldCountryRedneck ("God made liquor and God made brew, so ugly people could have sex too" - unknown)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Excellent article.


26 posted on 02/04/2007 7:54:48 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: marvlus

or galaxy warming or solar system warming. Actually, I KNOW the REAL cause to global warming--it's that danged Big Red Spot on Jupiter.


28 posted on 02/04/2007 8:08:06 PM PST by moog
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To: marvlus

Nope, the Sun is irrelevant, cyclical changes in global temeratures are to be ignored, and I should be satisfied that I can't drive a hydrocarbon fueled vehicle, wear a fur lined coat, eat a phucking hamburger and burn a nice cigar.



29 posted on 02/04/2007 8:16:38 PM PST by Hilltop (?)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
It's Bush's fault. Bush and those damned SUVs.

Women and minorities will be hardest hit.

But if we tax it enough, that will fix everything.

30 posted on 02/04/2007 8:35:38 PM PST by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: ExGeeEye

Glogal warming is a myth driven by people that do not believe in God.


31 posted on 02/04/2007 8:37:37 PM PST by reflector3
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To: Bubba_Leroy
The Global Warming Chicken Littles will eliminate the SUV and with it children's soccer. Then more children will get fat and lazy playing video soccer.
32 posted on 02/04/2007 8:53:10 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Next time some "ecological warrior" accosts me about "global warming", I'm gonna bean 'em in the face with a snowball.

A snowball with lots of rocks in it.


33 posted on 02/04/2007 9:31:51 PM PST by FierceDraka (Army Dad, And Damned Proud Of It!)
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To: familyop
They say that we're in a long-term warm cycle. It's something that we'll have to live with, until something happens to cool the earth (more smoke, ash or dust in the atmosphere or the like)

LET'S HAVE A NUCLEAR WAR!

... it's for the children!

34 posted on 02/04/2007 9:36:22 PM PST by FierceDraka (Army Dad, And Damned Proud Of It!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Wasn't there only 0.3C increase during the first 70 years of the 20th century in the best monitored nation on the planet (U.S.A.) and then cooling over the past 30 eyars?


35 posted on 02/04/2007 9:45:06 PM PST by aruanan
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To: familyop
The current issue of Scientific Americanhas this artcle: Methane, Plants and Climate Change:

http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=1&articleID=1367E15B-E7F2-99DF-346DBF33877B8596

It begins telling how a big discovery about the contribution of the earth's plant life contributes huge amounts of methane, a big player in greenhouse effects. However, this article manages to minimize plant's (including algae) contribution when compared to man's. However, the following article in National Geographic says that the plant contribution cannot yet be measured. Here is that article:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/01/0111_060111_ plant_methane.html

Another Russian scientist has found that temperatures cause an increase in CO2. Could these increased temperatures accelerate plant growth? However the increase in CO2, the following post in Free Republic gives a departure from the dogma.

In short, the Chicken Littles have yet to answer is it the chicken or the egg: does temperature cause increased CO2 or does increased C02 cause increased temperature?

36 posted on 02/04/2007 9:54:10 PM PST by jonrick46
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To: Bubba_Leroy

"Some say the world will end in ice,
some say it will end in fire,
And having tasted desire,
I hold with those who say fire."
Robert Frost


37 posted on 02/04/2007 9:54:28 PM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: Man50D

""I know I'm going out on a limb when I state the sun is the biggest cause of climate changes.""

Nope. You would be correct. I know you were being sarcastic but it is amazing how many people will argue with you about the sun not being the #1 cause of global warming.


38 posted on 02/04/2007 9:57:06 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

I blame the deaths and destruction caused by the tornados in Central Florida squarly on the shoulders of the Weather Channel and that Heidi wench.

Had she just predicted when and where those tornados would form and strike, 20 people would not have lost their lives.


39 posted on 02/04/2007 9:57:53 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Celebrate Monocacy!)
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To: reflector3

""Global warming is a myth driven by people that do not believe in God.""

You mean mankind and his piddly creations are not bigger than God?

Say it is'nt so!

Is'nt it interesting that just like everything else in nature the earth counters one effect by promoting another? Homeostasis (God) can be found when looking at the entire earth or the smallest cell.


40 posted on 02/04/2007 10:00:34 PM PST by volunbeer (Dear heaven.... we really need President Reagan again!)
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