[flixxx]

nice read

[rjp2005]

Kyoto was rejected by the entire US Senate, Democrat and Republican, because it did not hold China and other developing nations at all accountable for the "warming".

[andyandval]

John Kerry says that one reason America has become an "international pariah" is President Bush's decision to "walk away from global warming."

[Lancey Howard]

BUMP

[3AngelaD]

" Many senators and other experts in climate science..." Ain't it the truth? I agree with Will, someone should call their bluff and make those hypocrites in the Senate vote.

[tcostell]

I've spent some time looking at the numbers and political consensus or no, the data doesn't point to any clear conclusions about global temperatures let alone to cause. We don't dare empower government to slash 5% from global GDP in order to meet the goals of Kyoto like legislation without A GREAT DEAL more evidence.

That 5% by the way will no doubt be a great hardship to many as 21st century countries are forced to roll back the clock on energy consumption, but the people it will REALLY hurt will be the poor.

Al and Barbara will still be able to afford private jets, (and will have the political pull to get the necessary permits) but regular folk won't be allowed to drive their tractors anymore.

[Calpernia]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1779020/posts
Climate storm comes out of the blue: The Religion of Environmentalism


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1775002/posts
Trading Hot Air?


The Federal Office of the Environment and Public Works has released this statement:

NUREMBERG-STYLE TRIALS PROPOSED FOR GLOBAL WARMING SKEPTICS
http://epw.senate.gov/fact.cfm?party=rep&id=264568


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1779020/posts?page=6#6
National Religious Partnership for the Environment (NRPE)

[Emmett McCarthy]

I've made the personal decision to no longer patronize any business or manufacturer who announces their plans to plans to cut CO2 emissions to "combat global warming". It is a marketing strategy to increase their share, which under normal circumstances, is fine and dandy. But, the role that such a thing plays in perpetuating this myth, this "public religion", is unacceptable to me.

[i_dont_chat]

Interesting snips from this article:

Many senators and other experts in climate science say we must "do something" about global warming. Barack Obama says "the world" is watching to see "what action we take."

Fine. President Bush should give the world something amusing to watch. He should demand that the Senate vote on the protocol.

In 1997, when the Kyoto Protocol's essential provisions were known, a "sense of the Senate" resolution declared opposition to any agreement that would do what the protocol aims to do. The Senate warned against any agreement that would require significant reductions of greenhouse-gas emissions in the United States and other developed nations without mandating "specific scheduled commitments" on the part of the 129 "developing" countries, which include China, India, Brazil and South Korea—the second, fourth, 10th and 11th largest economies.

President Clinton and his earnest vice president knew better than to seek ratification of Kyoto by a Senate that had passed its resolution of disapproval 95-0. Fifty-six of those 95 senators are still serving. Two of them are John Kerry and Barbara Boxer. That is an inconvenient truth.

[Obie Wan]

One of George Bush's bightest hours was when he gave the middle finger to the Kyoto Protocol,and indirectly to Clinton in the process !!!

[SpaceBar]

A sobering line from the article...

"every 10 days China fires up a coal-fueled generating plant big enough to power San Diego"

That fact alone raises my suspicions that the Kyoto Protocol was an idea hatched in the Chinese Politburo.

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off

[yuta250]

Kyoto will never pass in this country for the simple reason that the bulk of our future oil needs will be coming from the Canadian oil sands, and its extraction involves producing high levels of CO2. This is also the impetus for President Bush's pushing for some sort of North American Union, to preclude Canadian environmentalists from pushing thru legislation that might thwart development of this resource. The estimated oil available from these tar sands is equivalent to estimated Saudi reserves, there is no way in hell we are ever going to sign on to any environmental accord that will prevent us from developing this resource. Case closed.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

Jon Pariah Cary is both an idiot and a traitor!

[DustyMoment]

Will has a good point. I like his idea about forcing the entire Senate to vote on accepting or rejecting the Kyoto accords. Why should he be blamed for screwing up a great economy to pacify the whims of an ignorant Senate?

How far we have come. Once, the Senate was run by wise and thoughtful people. Today, it represents the worst that our great country has to offer.

The Founding Fathers must have rolled over in their graves so often that there is little left of their remains but toothpicks.

[Michael.SF.]

Senate that had passed its resolution of disapproval 95-0. Fifty-six of those 95 senators are still serving. Two of them are John Kerry and Barbara Boxer. That is an inconvenient truth.

George Will simply makes too much sense for the Democrats to understand him.

[smonk]

---Climate Cassandras say ... ---

good shot, George ;)

[Danae]

Global warming is Junk science. The 2500 IDIOTS with grant monies at stake in the UN "Study" did not even GET that study past the Second step of the Scientific Method!!!!!!! And they PUBLISHED! There ought to be an HUGE outcry from the Scientific community! It violates just about everything they stand for to have done this!


From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

"The scientific method involves the following basic facets:

1~ * Observation. A constant feature of scientific inquiry.

2~ * Description. Information must be reliable, i.e., replicable (repeatable) as well as valid (relevant to the inquiry).

3~ * Prediction. Information must be valid for observations past, present, and future of given phenomena, i.e., purported "one shot" phenomena do not give rise to the capability to predict, nor to the ability to repeat an experiment.

4~ * Control. Actively and fairly sampling the range of possible occurrences, whenever possible and proper, as opposed to the passive acceptance of opportunistic data, is the best way to control or counterbalance the risk of empirical bias.

5~ * Falsifiability, or the elimination of plausible alternatives. This is a gradual process that requires repeated experiments by multiple researchers who must be able to replicate results in order to corroborate them. This requirement, one of the most frequently contended, leads to the following: All hypotheses and theories are in principle subject to disproof. Thus, there is a point at which there might be a consensus about a particular hypothesis or theory, yet it must in principle remain tentative. As a body of knowledge grows and a particular hypothesis or theory repeatedly brings predictable results, confidence in the hypothesis or theory increases.

6~ * Causal explanation. Many scientists and theorists on scientific method argue that concepts of causality are not obligatory to science, but are in fact well-defined only under particular, admittedly widespread conditions. Under these conditions the following requirements are generally regarded as important to scientific understanding:

7~ * Identification of causes. Identification of the causes of a particular phenomenon to the best achievable extent.
8~ * Covariation of events. The hypothesized causes must correlate with observed effects.
9~ * Time-order relationship. The hypothesized causes must precede the observed effects in time."

These MORONS have not gotten past Number 2 and they Published. Now they are expecting the Governments of the world to base public Policy on this crap?

They are far more stupid than even I thought!

This is a good article. We need more of the truth in the Press, because buying into the Bullpuky of these jokers would put us back nearly as far as Islam is trying to do.

[AppyPappy]

President Clinton didn't seek ratification of Kyoto and neither did the Senate. It passed its resolution of disapproval 95-0. 56 senators are still serving including John Kerry and Barbara Boxer.

[Valin]

It's -10f right now in Mpls...Global warming? Riiiiight.

[Neoliberalnot]

Best article I have seen in the lay press on the subject. Coldest January since 1971.