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It is said that Rudy is ready to take on the whole world in response to the deaths of 3,000 Americans in the WTC attack but he not only won't even lift a finger in response to the deaths of 40,000,000 American children - he wants the slaughter to continue unabated. He has even stated that he would willingly pay to have his own grandchild butchered by an abortionist if his daughter couldn't pay for it herself. And he even thinks that your tax money should be used to pay for the unborn children of poor women to be dismembered and sucked into a sink.
Yet, there is a massive propaganda effort occuring to sugar coat Giuliani's extreme liberal views, statements, and policies and Mayor of New York City. But it goes beyond softening his hardcore liberal views. The big lie is being told and told often that Giuliani is a conservative. Which he is NOT, by any sane definition of the word. That propaganda effort is seen in major magazines, newspapers, and right here on Free Republic.
Let there be no confusion. Giuliani is a liberal - one of the most liberal people in the Republican Party - and the MOST LIBERAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ever. Would it be easier to ignore his liberal, anti-Republican platform views and support the current frontrunner in the Republican Primary? For some. But what is the RIGHT thing to do? Do you principles mean anything to you? Do the traditional principles of the Republican Party mean anything to you? We're well over a year outside of election day. Any one of the major candidates could be made into the GOP nominee. They just need YOUR support in the form of donations and work. Are we so fearful of a tough election fight with Hillary that we'll put up a candidate whose liberal views do not represent the views of the vast majority of the Republican Party? Do we surrender our conservative values for electoral expedience? And if Rudy is our nominee and he does win the election, what does it profit the Republican Party if we win but we lose our soul?
Maybe some people are right and the time isn't right for a hardcore conservative candidate. Fine. Maybe we could go with a moderate more in the mold of our current President. I'm very unhappy with a number of things that President Bush has done, but I would far prefer 4 to 8 more years of that than 4 to 8 years of a liberal like Giuliani. Pick a conservative candidate, or a more moderate candidate if you must. But supporting a liberal like Giuliani is an unconscionable choice for any self-respecting conservative Republican.
Abortion does not fit my philosophy so I suppose that I am not GOP.
Guliani is one person I would never vote for.
April 09, 2001 -- ROFLOL! You are all getting desperate in pulling out an article from April 9, 2001. Let me think -- when did 9-11 happen? That's right September 11th, 2001. Do you anti-Rudy haters know how people changed after 9-11 or do you pretend it didn't happen because it doesn't fit your agenda. Rudy is not the same man now that he was before 9-11 except he is still the law and order prosecutor he was known for when he took on the mob and now wants to take on the terrorist and will uphold all the laws of the land not just ones a certain group likes or hates.
Your strawman of an article before 9-11 has me totally convinced that Rudy has an excellent shot to be our nominee the way some of you are acting. How many abortions did Rudy perform? How many laws did Rudy get pass as Mayor of NY about abortions? Are you people so naive that you expect a Mayor not to honor the law of the land which permits abortions or do you think an elected official has the option of picking and choosing which laws to enforce.
Roe v. Wade made abortion legal in this Country. I think it is a States Right's Issue but the SCOTUS certainly didn't ask me and if I had a vote, I would vote to outlaw in my State. But I also would criticize any elected official today who decided that the law was no good and took it upon themselves to do something about it. I elect my representatives to uphold the law of this Nation not to pick and choose. 9th Circuit does enough legislating from the bench that I don't want elected officials determining which laws to enforce.
Thanks again for reinforcing my belief that Rudy is leading the way you are throwing your fits about him. Some of us who have been Republicans and Conservatives are whole adult lives fighting in the trenches to electing Republicans are sick and tired of my way or no way I am not voting crowd that keeps threatening not to vote and already cost us dearly in 2006. We are paying for it right now and so are the members of our military because some of you threw your temper tantrums and stayed home to teach a lesson and are now threatening to do the same in 2008. If you cannot comprehend what is happening right now in D.C. thanks to stay at home voters, then some of you don't have a clue. Some of you can throw out the Congress disappointed you. Well they did me too but that didn't stop me from voting to return my Republican Congressman to office who did NOT disappoint me. What disappointed me was the people on here that said the two parties were the same and as we are learning day by day it is not true. Same thing the Perot people said and look what happened then -- Clinton. You would think some people would get a clue but that looks like it is too much to ask.
Your voices are now being diminished as it is necessary to reach out to other coalitions to win the White House. Good job of turning off voters and helping elect Dems to be in control. Grandstanding on social issues and shoving it in people's faces is now backlashing. Some of us want to make sure that our candidate in 2008 can win because we believe the election is too important to stamp our feet and throw a fit and not vote. If some of you don't like the nominee and cannot hold your nose to vote for them in the general, then you have no business being in the Republican Party because those of us who have been in the trenches for years fighting for the majority need people we can count on not people that throw fits and stay home.
NewsMax has had several articles showing how the anti-Rudy crowd will take his comments out of context and never show how he really feels about abortion.
Thank you for posting this. The bots could care less of course. Dead babies? In their eyes, killing the unborn is a small price to pay for obtaining power.
The only thing Bush has done is appoint strong judges, which is the exact same thing Rudy would do. This issue belongs in the states, with a referendum people vote (not politician or judge vote).
I wonder how many 100%ers will not vote for Rudy and cause Hillary to be elected over this one issue?
So long Rudi. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
I would never personally get an abortion. People really shouldn't. There are always the "what if" situations, I'm sure. However, I do not believe that the answer to abortion is to outlaw it. When it was previously outlawed, it led to blackmarket abortions, women hurting themselves to get rid of the fetus, and opened up an illegal business for people that were completey unqualified to be doing medical procedures. People who want an abortion will get one. I think the answer is educating people to make the decision not to get an abortion. Making it illegal is just too dangerous.
Also all the blame is not on the woman. There are a lot of men pressuring their girlfriends (or affairs) to get an abortion. How about some support instead?
Rudy is scum. If he was not already not getting my vote, he is certainly not getting it now. Hey RUDY!!! ABORTION IS MURDER. Did you ask the unborn child if it wanted to be murdered?? We worry about the civil rights of everyone, what about the unborn child's RIGHT TO LIVE?!?!?!?!? Scum bag.
Bush damaged the Republican party by abandoning the principles of limited government. Gulliani would further damage it by abandoning the principles of social conservatism and appoint of Constitutionalists to the judiary.
Gulliani is absolutly unaccepable as a GOP nominee.
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Hmmmm. Most men I've encountered who are pro-abortion are that way because they have had to depend on it to get them out of a jam.
It's too bad we can't ABORT those politicians who so willingly slaughter innocent babies!
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I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights, Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded. Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999 http://www.ontheissues.org/2008/Rudy_Giuliani_Abortion.htm
ANDERSON COOPER 360 DEGREES (November 14, 2006)
RUDY GIULIANI (R), FORMER MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY: I'm pro- choice. I'm pro-gay rights.KING: Giuliani supports a woman's right to an abortion, and back in 1999, he opposed a federal ban on late-term abortions.
GIULIANI: No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing.
KING: Immigration could be another presidential landmine. Back in 1996, Mayor Giuliani went to federal court to challenge new federal laws requiring the city to inform the federal government about illegal immigrants.
JEFFREY: He took the side of illegal immigrants in New York City against the Republican Congress.
KING: Giuliani opposes same-sex marriage but as mayor, he supported civil unions and extending health and other benefits to gay couples. He also supported the assault weapons ban and other gun control measures opposed by the National Rifle Association.
GIULIANI: I'm in favor of gun control. I'm pro-choice.
Republican Big-Wigs Support Pro-Abortion Event in NY
Pro-abortion Governor George Pataki and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who also supports unrestricted abortion, are co-chairs of the 2000 Choice Award Presentation to be held on May 30 at the St. Regis Hotel in New York City. The event is sponsored by the Republican Pro-Choice Coalition, a group that is campaigning for the removal of the pro-life plank from the Republican National Platform.
http://www.nationalreview.com/murdock/murdock200503010743.asp
