April 09, 2001 -- ROFLOL! You are all getting desperate in pulling out an article from April 9, 2001. Let me think -- when did 9-11 happen? That's right September 11th, 2001. Do you anti-Rudy haters know how people changed after 9-11 or do you pretend it didn't happen because it doesn't fit your agenda. Rudy is not the same man now that he was before 9-11 except he is still the law and order prosecutor he was known for when he took on the mob and now wants to take on the terrorist and will uphold all the laws of the land not just ones a certain group likes or hates.
Your strawman of an article before 9-11 has me totally convinced that Rudy has an excellent shot to be our nominee the way some of you are acting. How many abortions did Rudy perform? How many laws did Rudy get pass as Mayor of NY about abortions? Are you people so naive that you expect a Mayor not to honor the law of the land which permits abortions or do you think an elected official has the option of picking and choosing which laws to enforce.
Roe v. Wade made abortion legal in this Country. I think it is a States Right's Issue but the SCOTUS certainly didn't ask me and if I had a vote, I would vote to outlaw in my State. But I also would criticize any elected official today who decided that the law was no good and took it upon themselves to do something about it. I elect my representatives to uphold the law of this Nation not to pick and choose. 9th Circuit does enough legislating from the bench that I don't want elected officials determining which laws to enforce.
Thanks again for reinforcing my belief that Rudy is leading the way you are throwing your fits about him. Some of us who have been Republicans and Conservatives are whole adult lives fighting in the trenches to electing Republicans are sick and tired of my way or no way I am not voting crowd that keeps threatening not to vote and already cost us dearly in 2006. We are paying for it right now and so are the members of our military because some of you threw your temper tantrums and stayed home to teach a lesson and are now threatening to do the same in 2008. If you cannot comprehend what is happening right now in D.C. thanks to stay at home voters, then some of you don't have a clue. Some of you can throw out the Congress disappointed you. Well they did me too but that didn't stop me from voting to return my Republican Congressman to office who did NOT disappoint me. What disappointed me was the people on here that said the two parties were the same and as we are learning day by day it is not true. Same thing the Perot people said and look what happened then -- Clinton. You would think some people would get a clue but that looks like it is too much to ask.
Your voices are now being diminished as it is necessary to reach out to other coalitions to win the White House. Good job of turning off voters and helping elect Dems to be in control. Grandstanding on social issues and shoving it in people's faces is now backlashing. Some of us want to make sure that our candidate in 2008 can win because we believe the election is too important to stamp our feet and throw a fit and not vote. If some of you don't like the nominee and cannot hold your nose to vote for them in the general, then you have no business being in the Republican Party because those of us who have been in the trenches for years fighting for the majority need people we can count on not people that throw fits and stay home.
Well said.
Frankly, you're the one who sounds desperate. Not to mention silly and whiny. For years I thought you were a pro-life conservative. Did you have me fooled. Whether Rudy made remarks 5-15 years ago, just yesterday or today, they're all relevent for the 2008 political campaign. Rudy obviously hasn't changed his mind about anything. Except for supporting Mario Cuomo over George Pataki, Rudy is still the lifelong liberal he's always been. One thing is clear, Rudy is working at keeping a low rhetorical profile. Do you really believe Rudy is all of a sudden going to jump up and proclaim, I am for limited government, I am pro-life, guns are good, special rights for gays is wrong and illegals will never get amnsety if you elect me. Of course not. Those are fallacies.
This is the early stages of the GOP 2008 primary campaign. There is a good chance that Giuliani will decide not to run. But whatever happens, Republican primary voters will choose the nominee. And social conservatives are the majority of those primary activist voters. They will not go along with you guys in the moderate-centrist-liberal wing of the GOP.
Instead of working to drive a wedge between factions in the Republican Party, hwo about coming up with a new plan. A plan that shows a chance of working. We need a unity candidate that appeals to ALL Republicans. We don't need to have a liberal as the party standard bearer for 2008. That is, unless you what to see a Democrat sitting in the WH come Jan2009.