[Spiff]

I'm told of how impressed some people are with Rudy's "resolve" after he saw nearly 3,000 people die in the attack on the WTC on 9/11. Yet, during his term in office as Mayor of NYC nearly 1,000,000 unborn children were slaughtered in that city alone. And the only resolve Rudy shows in the face of such a bloody holocaust is to support the continuance of it. He equates the butchery of pre-birth children with "freedom" and "choice." He even celebrates it with its strongest proponents - groups like NARAL - bragging of his strong disagreement with the vast majority of the Republican on trying to put an end to the slaughter that has killed over 40,000,000 babies since the Roe v. Wade legal atrocity.

It is said that Rudy is ready to take on the whole world in response to the deaths of 3,000 Americans in the WTC attack but he not only won't even lift a finger in response to the deaths of 40,000,000 American children - he wants the slaughter to continue unabated. He has even stated that he would willingly pay to have his own grandchild butchered by an abortionist if his daughter couldn't pay for it herself. And he even thinks that your tax money should be used to pay for the unborn children of poor women to be dismembered and sucked into a sink.

Yet, there is a massive propaganda effort occuring to sugar coat Giuliani's extreme liberal views, statements, and policies and Mayor of New York City. But it goes beyond softening his hardcore liberal views. The big lie is being told and told often that Giuliani is a conservative. Which he is NOT, by any sane definition of the word. That propaganda effort is seen in major magazines, newspapers, and right here on Free Republic.

Let there be no confusion. Giuliani is a liberal - one of the most liberal people in the Republican Party - and the MOST LIBERAL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE ever. Would it be easier to ignore his liberal, anti-Republican platform views and support the current frontrunner in the Republican Primary? For some. But what is the RIGHT thing to do? Do you principles mean anything to you? Do the traditional principles of the Republican Party mean anything to you? We're well over a year outside of election day. Any one of the major candidates could be made into the GOP nominee. They just need YOUR support in the form of donations and work. Are we so fearful of a tough election fight with Hillary that we'll put up a candidate whose liberal views do not represent the views of the vast majority of the Republican Party? Do we surrender our conservative values for electoral expedience? And if Rudy is our nominee and he does win the election, what does it profit the Republican Party if we win but we lose our soul?

Maybe some people are right and the time isn't right for a hardcore conservative candidate. Fine. Maybe we could go with a moderate more in the mold of our current President. I'm very unhappy with a number of things that President Bush has done, but I would far prefer 4 to 8 more years of that than 4 to 8 years of a liberal like Giuliani. Pick a conservative candidate, or a more moderate candidate if you must. But supporting a liberal like Giuliani is an unconscionable choice for any self-respecting conservative Republican.

[Sunsong]

April 2001???

[Graymatter]

Thank you, Spiff. You really sliced him up fine!

[muleskinner]

Do you have pictures of Rudy greeting the women at the entrance to the clinics?

Nice 6 year old post./s/

[taxesareforever]

Sure do hope that our GOP Presidential candidate isn't Rudy.

[Liz]

Thanks for the post, Spiff. Conservatives need to see what this one-trick pony is up to.

After a political lifetime of fellating Planned Parenthood, wannabe Giussolini now realizes he needs social conservatives to make a primary splash............and is cunningly courting them.

Looks like Rudeinsky's taking his cues from Borat---as Borat indicated to Rolling Stone---you can tell those dumb Christians anything and they'll believe it.

Julie-annie is the lapdog of the empire crowd, and the linchpin for the takeover of the Repub party.

"Tell you what, Rudy......GTH out of my party. "

[mtntop3]

This is an asinine post. Rudy is not an abortion advocate.

But he is realistic enough to know that abortion can ultimately only be stopped by changing the mores of an increasingly secular society.

And by teaching and practicing God's word. In that realm, Spiff, you are bearing false witness.

Laws may be passed or done away with. A pill will always be available.

You might also note Rudy is a Catholic. In excellent standing.

Rudy saved hundreds of thousands of NYC lives in his tenure as mayor simply by dramatically reducing crime. Many, many of those helped and protected were expectant mothers and children.

If you are seeking an Utopian candidate who will state, "I will outlaw abortion.!" you'd better not hold your breath doing it.

The overwhelming view of Americans is that they (increasingly) disapprove of abortion, but do NOT want to outlaw it.

[MSF BU]

It will be fun to watch him debate Duncan Hunter.

[airborne]

The left continues to infiltrate the Republican Party.

[hosepipe]

Giuliani?, McLame?, Romney?...
The republican party seems to be rolling its eyes and drooling.. making strange noises..

[Raycpa]

It would be great to get the actual quote in context rather than an excerpt from a biased source.

[Cicero]

THE DATE OF THIS ARTICLE IS 2001.

Let's see what Rudy has to say about abortion NOW. This constant Rudy-bashing is getting tiresome. I am strongly pro-life, and if he sticks to his abortion stand I probably won't vote for him. BUT LET's WAIT AND SEE, eh?

[Salvation]

This doesn't sound like Rudy.

[MEGoody]

While the national Republican platform is decidedly pro-life and has been for the past two decades, the GOP mayor of the nation's largest city believes his party's philosophical underpinnings are more in tune with the pro-abortion point of view.

I've lost some of the respect I had for Rudy.

[Ronaldus Magnus]

New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani said favoring the availability of abortion is "more consistent with the philosophy of the Republican Party."

Thanks for posting. Unless he has apologized and recanted, he will not be the elected Republican nominee of anything outside of New York.

[Reagan Man]

Btw, here is the Republican Party platform on the abortion issue.

Promoting a Culture of Life

As a country, we must keep our pledge to the first guarantee of the Declaration of
Independence. That is why we say the unborn child has a fundamental individual right to
life which cannot be infringed. We support a human life amendment to the Constitution
and we endorse legislation to make it clear that the Fourteenth Amendment’s protections
apply to unborn children. Our purpose is to have legislative and judicial protection of that right against those who perform abortions. We oppose using public revenues for abortion and will not fund organizations which advocate it. We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life.
Our goal is to ensure that women with problem pregnancies have the kind of
support, material and otherwise, they need for themselves and for their babies, not to be
punitive towards those for whose difficult situation we have only compassion. We oppose
abortion, but our pro-life agenda does not include punitive action against women who
have an abortion. We salute those who provide alternatives to abortion and offer adoption
services, and we commend Congressional Republicans for expanding assistance to
adopting families and for removing racial barriers to adoption. We join the President in
supporting crisis pregnancy programs and parental notification laws. And we applaud
President Bush for allowing states to extend health care coverage to unborn children.
We praise the President for his bold leadership in defense of life. We praise him
for signing the Born Alive Infants Protection Act. This important legislation ensures that
every infant born alive – including an infant who survives an abortion procedure – is
considered a person under federal law. We praise Republicans in Congress for passing, with strong bipartisan support, a ban on the inhumane procedure known as partial birth abortion. And we applaud President Bush for signing legislation outlawing partial birth abortion and for vigorously defending it in the courts.

[KevinDavis]

I'm not supporting Rudy, however, he believes that abortion should be left up to the states (as do I)... Even if Roe v Wade is overturned, abortion would not be outlawed, only certain states will have legalize abortion..

[gidget7]

I agree with the way he handled NYC after 9/11. I have tremendous respect for him for that. Thus he would be a great asset as head of Homeland security, or perhaps Defense Secretary or Secretary of State. I WAS open to him as President, but no. This puts him out of contention for me.

[ffusco]

Yo're right. Guiliani is responsible for upholding a woman's right to choose. You really believe a pro-lifer can do anything to change the culture of narcissism and casual sex? You think making abortions illegal will stop people from having them in back alleys? Give me a break.

[F.J. Mitchell]

Ghouliani has confused the philosophy of the Republican party with that of the Dims.

If he can't run on the democrat ticket, he shouldn't run at all.

[EmilyGeiger]

So much for the baby's life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness....... I guess their freedom doesn't count.