[mtntop3]

This is an asinine post. Rudy is not an abortion advocate.

But he is realistic enough to know that abortion can ultimately only be stopped by changing the mores of an increasingly secular society.

And by teaching and practicing God's word. In that realm, Spiff, you are bearing false witness.

Laws may be passed or done away with. A pill will always be available.

You might also note Rudy is a Catholic. In excellent standing.

Rudy saved hundreds of thousands of NYC lives in his tenure as mayor simply by dramatically reducing crime. Many, many of those helped and protected were expectant mothers and children.

If you are seeking an Utopian candidate who will state, "I will outlaw abortion.!" you'd better not hold your breath doing it.

The overwhelming view of Americans is that they (increasingly) disapprove of abortion, but do NOT want to outlaw it.

[steve86]

You might also note Rudy is a Catholic. In excellent standing.

You might yourself note that lying violates one of the Ten Commandments.

[Spiff]

This is an asinine post. Rudy is not an abortion advocate.

The subject of this thread was a speech that Giuliani gave to the National Abortion Rights Action League - one of the nation's leading abortion advocacy groups. Rudy was asked to speak to NARAL because they recognized him as a "Champion of Choice" at the event.

[MSM Hater]

You might also note Rudy is a Catholic. In excellent standing.

Two divorces and two remarriages disqualifies you from "excellent standing" in the Catholic Church. The church doesn't recognize divorce and sees his new marriages as adultery. The church also frowns on politicians who support abortion rights. The church does like his pro-gun-control position, however.

[Sir_Ed]

For that matter, Pelose, Granholm and Kenneday are also Catholic, and I wouldn't vote for them...

Ed