Giuliani Leads By Principle

Bradenton Herald ^ | 1/24/07

[PhiKapMom]

It is both amusing but also a little sad.

You are so right. These people have gone over the edge. I have to wonder how many of them are actually Republicans who vote all the time because I don't see any of us saying we are going to stay home and not vote. They remind me of the a combination of Keyes/Buchanan/Perot people.

They have to be out of touch to go after Rudy on dressing up like a woman because I have seen that for years at different events to raise money for charity and it is all done in fun. Watching guys walk in heels is hilarious. Miss BHS at at a high school my kids went to was guys from the football team dressed up as girls. Guess they will never be able to run for President either! :)

[Registered]

You won't support "Rino Rudy" but you will support (and voted for) Kinky Friedman for Texas Governor?

Why?

[Hydroshock]

The TX election came down between a libertarian CW singer and satirist, a wack job granny who has been all over the map politically, a liberal rat, and a $5 brained, $50 haircuted, land grabbing, tax and spend, illegal alien amnesty loving, arogant rino. I could not hold my nose and vote for Gov Goodhair so I potested with a vote for Kinky. he had a lot of negatives but he was not trying to steal anyones land or did he sign into law one of the largest new taxes ever in TX history and call it property tax reform. You have of course heard of holding you nose to vote. I needed a good belt of bourbon to get to the point of holding my nose in this one.

[Alberta's Child]

I have no doubt in my mind that Rudy Giuliani is a very principled person (he's a breath of fresh air, in that regard).

My concern is that most of his stated principles are anathema to principled conservatives.

[Alberta's Child]

I've done quite a bit of research on the Michael Milken case, and I concluded that this was a pretty egregious cases of prosecutorial conduct -- as well as an abuse of Federal RICO statutes. This case should not be brought up by anyone pointing to Giuliani's legacy in a positive light.

Milken was basically run through the wringer for being an extremely smart, shrewd financier who found -- and took advantage of -- many loopholes in SEC regulations governing the bond market.

A good way to make this point would be to find a typical person with an informal understanding of the case and ask him/her what crimes Milken committed. The lack of a clear answer on this is very telling.

[areafiftyone]

If that's the case that is something he will have to overcome IF he decides to run. It's as simple as that. Let's see what he does when confronted with that - if he has changed at all on some issue or is still the same. I'm looking forward to Rudy running and I think he will surprise many social conservatives. I believe in giving everyone a chance. If he doesn't win the nomination then fine - I'll back the person who does win 100%. I've always said that.

[PhiKapMom]

I agree and can see you are as much against pandering as I am -- I am tired of the threats of not voting and actually following through and giving the DemocRATs the majority!

As far as I am concerned it is time for all Republican Conservatives to step up to the plate if they want to be part of a coalition that elects the next President. I am supporting Rudy but there isn't a Republican out there I won't vote for over a DemocRAT.

[nopardons]

I'm sure that Rudy WOWED everyone who was there and remember, this IS a CONSERVATIVE area!

[nopardons]

Rudy, no matter what you might claim, is for a smaller government and CUT N.Y.C,'s government when he was mayor.

[nopardons]

He'll NEVER make it out of the primaries and will NOT even be noticed all that much, when he's in it. Nor can he attract enough moderates and Indies to win a general election.

[nopardons]

If Rudy gets the nomination, he can beat ANYONE the DEMS have.

Voting fringe, does only one thing...gives aid and comfort to the DEM!

[nopardons]

And yet you are supposedly "impressed" by Duncan Hunter? Have you ever heard him speak? He's NOT a a good speaker and has the charisma of Kusinich.

Rudy WILL win and then you can slink off and join a different forum, so that you can be amongst pals, who do nothing but trash FR and GOPers, elected and civilian.

[nopardons]

BRAVO!

[mysterio]

You argue that Guliani will make the government significantly smaller and less intrusive? I want you on the record in case he does win.

[jmc813]

He'll NEVER make it out of the primaries and will NOT even be noticed all that much, when he's in it.

Several Rudy backers here on FR think that Hunter might have a good shot at the VP slot if Rudy wins, kind of a conservative balance to the ticket. Do you think this is an unrealistic possibility?

[areafiftyone]

I'm sure he did too. I wish I could have been there. But I'm sure He'll be back to NY and I'll be able to see him.

[nopardons]

I stated that that is what he did in N.Y.C.! Nobody, with more than three working brain cells, is going to swear that some politician is absolutely, positively going to do XXXXX and YYYYYY and ZZZZZZZZZZ if and when he is elected to whatever position he is running for.

Are YOU willing to state, right now, that IF Hunter is elected president, he will reduce the size of government?

[nopardons]

It's a possibility, yes; I do agree with that.

Will it happen? I have no idea. If it did, I wouldn't have a problem with it.

What I DO have a problem with, is people here, who don't understand HOW politics works, those who engage in underhanded posting tactics, those who lie, and those who are just disruptors.

Running in a primary costs a LOT of money. It also takes political backing from BIG GUNS, and a huge, well oiled machine to win a presidential primary. Forget about the MSM...we're talking about GOPers here. :-)

[nopardons]

Yes, and yes, he will be back in N.Y.C. and you'll be able to see him then. :-)

[mysterio]

I'm more in the Ron Paul camp. I'm pretty sure he would cut the size of government and veto any unConstitutional bill, yes.