Posted on 01/24/2007 8:21:42 AM PST by areafiftyone
Don't get me wrong you can't get everything you want. But I have reached the point where I will not compromise andymore. Rino Rudy is just so far to the left that he might as well be a democrat. Like I said the biggest differnece between him and Hitlery on issues I care about are he looks better in a dress.
Of course, I disagree that Rudy is as far left as any Democrat. The Democrats are so far left, they make FDR look like a conservative. But you're entitled to your opinion, and your promotion of Hunter. May the best candidate win, and whoever that person is, may they go on to overwhelm Team Clinton.
I don't have any guns, and if I did, I don't believe Rudy would want to take them away. NY City had a strict gun law before Rudy was Mayor. I don't think he would call for that same kind of law for the country.
I like Rudy as a person. I respect him for the leadership he provided to NY after 9/11. But I can't vote for him in a primary. He and I disagree on the social issues too much.
Beat the dem you should say. I do not think Hitlery will be the rat's choice. Case in point the latest Iowa straw poll has Edwards on top with 25%.
Boy, you JulieAnnistas are out in force these days.
Too bad your boy hasn't got a chance to get elected President even if he DOES get nominated.
The match mae in Liberal Media Land - Liberal JulieAnnie versus Liberal Hillery Clinton. Its like choosing between arsenic and cyanide.
Those aren't liberal principles.
Judy Riuliani's REAL principles:
They are all Alan Keyes supporters.
Alan Keyes, conservative, and totally unelectable jerk.
That's the kind of candiadate they will support.
Would you have voted for Alan Keyes?
He is pro gay, pro abortion, pro illegal and antigun. He sounds pretty liberal to me.
Where's that proof we ask you for on a regular basis?
Which were mostly the ones that Newt and the Republican Congress forced down clinton's throat. Remember that billy jeff ran most of the 1996 campaign on OUR principles.
On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." -Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.
The Real Rudy Giuliani:
From Human Events:
Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance
As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:
"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.
I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...
Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.
Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."
Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:
"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999
It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?
Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.
An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate
In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.
Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.
Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?
Soft on Gay Marriage
Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.
Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:
His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."
Here's more from the New York Daily News:
"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.
The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.
"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."
"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."
Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.
Pro-Illegal Immigration
As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:
"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."
That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:
"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."
If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.
CLICK HERE TO READ MORE OF RUDY GIULIANI'S LEFT-WING POLITICAL POSITIONS
A fellow poster sums it up better then I could:
Then the republican party should take note and run candiadates that although appeal to the middle keep the base solid. Rino Rudy will not do this.
If Rudy Giuliani, the most liberal Republican presidential candidate EVER, wins the nomination the Republican Party will experience a civil war like none seen before. The resulting two parties will be mortal enemies for some time. Bush's liberal agenda was the wedge. Rudy's liberalism will be the hammer blow to drive that wedge and split the party. Those FReepers here who keep supporting the most liberal Republican presidential candidate ever need to understand the consequences of their folly.
165 posted on 01/24/2007 10:37:38 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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Meanwhile, Rudy spent his time as Mayor of NYC protecting the city's illegal alien sanctuary policy all the way to SCOTUS - and even when SCOTUS said that policy violated federal law, Rudy refused to change it.
So we're supposed to believe that Rudy will adhere to the Constitution and be a leader when he pulled a stunt like that? One that jeopardized law-abiding citizens by allowing illegal criminals to stay in the US and not be deported?
Us long term Freepers know who is credible and who is not.
In this case, NOT!
you are too new here to be making disruptive attacks on other peoples threads however.
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