Posted on 01/24/2007 8:21:42 AM PST by areafiftyone
I have heard Rudy speak and was appailed. He is a rino and will nto win nationally.
I had no problem with this justification for going into Iraq. Saddam clearly coddled terrorists, and al Zarqawi/al Qaeda was given entrance to Iraq as a base of operations when they were forced to leave Afghanistan.
But if anyone questions these observations, they need to recognize that since the fall of Saddam, Iraq has become THE major battleground for the war on terrorism, as al Qaeda-types and other freelance terrorists have gravitated into Iraq to directly challenge the US presence there. It has actually be a brilliant strategy to fight terrorists in the provinces of Iraq rather than in the cities of the America. Failure in Iraq is not an option. It's sad that so many Americans have slipped back into a mode where all they care about is who the next "American Idol" is going to be, have become "bored" with the war on terror, and have gone back to expecting goodies from the Democrats. Actually, it's more than sad, it's dangerous.
every single fluffly talking point can have the name Kerry, McCain, or AlGore substituted for Rudy Guiliani and still be applicable.
Guliani is a liberal he has done NOTHING and said NOTHING to change that fact.
The ONLY credential he has right now is his accident of being mayor on 9/11.
So, you plan to vote for Hillary?
There are others running and it is still awfully early in this process.
Giuliani leads because he has somehow kept some of his male hormone apparatus intact.
Thanks for the ping
I have seen him speak in public and thouroughly see a typical big government pro-leftist prosecutor turned politician.
Between McCain and Guiliani we have tweedle dee and tweedle dum.
Rudy is just a do nothing RINO giving aid and comfort to the left so they can ratchet further left.
We need a conservative who will not be a contributor to the ratchet effect, we need a person who will push back.
A fluffy former prosecutor does not fit that bill.
It's interesting to observe that the same screen names pop up on every thread about Giuliani to chant their mantras against him. The ivory tower naysayers have been a mainstay on FR every election cycle, but this time around, I'm finding their rhetoric more juvenile than in the past, and more shrill. I pick up a scent of desperation in their rants. It's probably an indication of how likely it is that Rudy will indeed be the GOP nominee.
Each to his own!
I am a pragmatist, and I will proudly cast a vote for Rudy Giuliani if he's the GOP nominee. I voted for him here in NYC (he was the best mayor this city has had in my almost 50 years of existence), and I'd be happy to vote for him again.
Congratulations! That's probably the most idiotic and ill-conceived statement I've read on FreeRepublic in a long time. You want to paint every prosecutor in the country with a brush of incompetence because of one guy?! Rudy successfully went up against the heads of all five of New York's major crime families, won high-profile convictions of white-collar culprits such as Clinton buddy Marc Rich, junk bond trader Michael Milken and Wall Street insider Ivan Boesky. You'd know this if you'd bothered to do any homework at all.
Much of the anti-Rudy rhetoric on FR is just plain idiotic (like the "gun-grabbing" comments -- nobody is threatening to take away your precisious little gun), but you win the prize today.
The "idealists" (both left and right) will stand by and let evil overtake the nation, because they don't get 100% of what they want in a candidate. I used to think of the "idealists" as useless. Now I consider them dangerous to the welfare of the nation and to the safety of us all.
I agree. I'll be interested to see how they all do. Duncan Hunter may catch fire, and that would be great. As I commented earlier, considering that Her Heinous will likely be the Democrat candidate, I'm voting for whomever the GOP nominates, and I'm one of the few on FR who will not attack any GOP contender.
This is very true, People notice something like that!
I guess I am a dangerous idealist then. I will not vote for a Republican who has a record exposing so many of the same views that cause me to vote against Democrats.
One interesting thought. Duncan Hunter and Rino Rudy are the only two of the pack that have any real passonate support on this board.
Romney has his supporters, but you're right that Rudy and Hunter have the most passionate followers. I think it's characteristic of the "split" between idealists and pragmatists. The idealists promote the most conservative option out there. The pragmatists want the one most likely to win, even if that person isn't the most conservative. I've observed politics long enough to know that one never gets everything they want (even Reagan fell short of the ideal, even though he was the closest we've had in my lifetime). I guess that makes me a pragmatist.
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