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Giuliani Leads By Principle
Bradenton Herald ^ | 1/24/07

Posted on 01/24/2007 8:21:42 AM PST by areafiftyone

SARASOTA - After the two terrorist-flown airplanes struck the World Trade Center on Sept. 11, 2001, then-New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani became known internationally for his effective leadership.

Giuliani was in town Tuesday to talk about that leadership as part of the Town Hall 2007 lecture series presented by the Ringling School Library Association.

He used his book, "Leadership," which he called a guide to becoming a more effective leader, as the basis for the talk.

Before speaking to the packed house of about 1,600 at the Van Wezel Performing Arts Hall, he was asked how he would rate the leadership qualities of President Bush.

"I'm a big supporter of the president," Giuliani said. "He has the quality of setting goals and sticking to them."

He said Bush made the biggest decision of his presidency after the attacks, "to go on the offensive against terrorism," and said going to Iraq was part of that strategy.

"Whether you agree with being in Iraq or not," said Giuliani, a potential Republican candidate for president, "we're there now and a precipitous withdrawal would be a terrible victory for terrorism."

The former mayor and federal prosecutor responded to a question about the 13th Congressional District elections in Sarasota County between Republican candidate Vern Buchanan and Democrat Christine Jennings.

He said it "seemed like Vern won the election," but acknowledged it's hard to explain why people would not vote in a particular race, creating the contested 18,000 undervote.

When told people were wondering about his plans for being on the ballot for the 2008 presidential election, Giuliani said, "I am, too."

He said he has established an exploratory committee, the first step in finding out if there would be support for his candidacy.

During his hourlong speech, Giuliani outlined his six principles of becoming a good leader.

"We learn how to be leaders," he said, explaining how lessons learned during his life helped him run New York City, especially dealing with the personal experience of having prostate cancer.

"You try to relate how to run a business, government or organization with how to deal with a crisis in life," he said, engaging the audience as he walked around the large stage and emphasized his points with hand gestures.

The first of his principles of good leadership was to have a set of beliefs.

"Too many politicians make decisions based on opinion polls," said the popular politician. "They do that to reflect what you think."

He said that was the opposite of leadership. "That's not a leader," he said. "That's an actor."

Expounding on the other principles, Giuliani would illustrate his point with stories of his life.

When talking about the importance of having good communication skills to be a good leader, he said he remembers a lesson from his father.

His father told him attending weddings was optional, but funerals were mandatory, Giuliani said.

"People need more at funerals," he said. "If I was there for them when they needed help, they will be there when I need help."

Giuliani tenets

The six principles Rudy Giuliani said are necessary to make a good leader:

• You have to have a set of beliefs.

• You have to be an optimist.

• You have to have courage.

• You have to take risks, but prepare for them.

• You have to develop teamwork.

• You have to communicate.

Former NYC mayor lays down leadership law in Sarasota stop


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To: My2Cents

Don't get me wrong you can't get everything you want. But I have reached the point where I will not compromise andymore. Rino Rudy is just so far to the left that he might as well be a democrat. Like I said the biggest differnece between him and Hitlery on issues I care about are he looks better in a dress.


61 posted on 01/24/2007 10:07:07 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock

Of course, I disagree that Rudy is as far left as any Democrat. The Democrats are so far left, they make FDR look like a conservative. But you're entitled to your opinion, and your promotion of Hunter. May the best candidate win, and whoever that person is, may they go on to overwhelm Team Clinton.


62 posted on 01/24/2007 10:15:16 AM PST by My2Cents
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To: antisocial

I don't have any guns, and if I did, I don't believe Rudy would want to take them away. NY City had a strict gun law before Rudy was Mayor. I don't think he would call for that same kind of law for the country.


63 posted on 01/24/2007 10:16:35 AM PST by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: areafiftyone

I like Rudy as a person. I respect him for the leadership he provided to NY after 9/11. But I can't vote for him in a primary. He and I disagree on the social issues too much.


64 posted on 01/24/2007 10:18:30 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: My2Cents

Beat the dem you should say. I do not think Hitlery will be the rat's choice. Case in point the latest Iowa straw poll has Edwards on top with 25%.


65 posted on 01/24/2007 10:18:41 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: areafiftyone

Boy, you JulieAnnistas are out in force these days.

Too bad your boy hasn't got a chance to get elected President even if he DOES get nominated.

The match mae in Liberal Media Land - Liberal JulieAnnie versus Liberal Hillery Clinton. Its like choosing between arsenic and cyanide.


66 posted on 01/24/2007 10:18:56 AM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: My2Cents
So, you plan to vote for Hillary?

No, in a Guliani/Hillary race, I'd either vote libertarian or write in Ron Paul.

Neither Guliani nor Hillary address my main issues, which are the restoration and preservation of our Constitutional liberties and smaller, less intrusive government.

I will not comprimise on those issues.
67 posted on 01/24/2007 10:19:37 AM PST by mysterio
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To: Hydroshock

Those aren't liberal principles.


68 posted on 01/24/2007 10:20:06 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: areafiftyone
The six principles Rudy Giuliani said are necessary to make a good leader: • You have to have a set of beliefs. • You have to be an optimist. • You have to have courage. • You have to take risks, but prepare for them. • You have to develop teamwork. • You have to communicate.

Judy Riuliani's REAL principles:


69 posted on 01/24/2007 10:22:35 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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To: My2Cents
"It's probably an indication of how likely it is that Rudy will indeed be the GOP nominee."

Your correct in your observation.
Shrill, bitchy little hijacking posts often accompanied by JPG copies of images they keep under their mattresses while all the while screaming some guy named Duncan Donut should be the next President of The United States.
70 posted on 01/24/2007 10:22:37 AM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: My2Cents

They are all Alan Keyes supporters.

Alan Keyes, conservative, and totally unelectable jerk.
That's the kind of candiadate they will support.


71 posted on 01/24/2007 10:22:39 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: Ingtar

Would you have voted for Alan Keyes?


72 posted on 01/24/2007 10:23:57 AM PST by BunnySlippers (SAY YES TO RUDY !!!)
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To: BunnySlippers

He is pro gay, pro abortion, pro illegal and antigun. He sounds pretty liberal to me.


73 posted on 01/24/2007 10:27:42 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock

Where's that proof we ask you for on a regular basis?


74 posted on 01/24/2007 10:29:29 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: Hydroshock
"most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine."

Which were mostly the ones that Newt and the Republican Congress forced down clinton's throat. Remember that billy jeff ran most of the 1996 campaign on OUR principles.

75 posted on 01/24/2007 10:32:03 AM PST by CommerceComet
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

On President Bill Clinton: Shortly before his last-minute endorsement of Bob Dole in the 1996 presidential election, Giuliani told the Post's Jack Newfield that "most of Clinton's policies are very similar to most of mine." -Rudy! An Investigative Biography of Rudolph Giuliani, Wayne Barrett.


The Real Rudy Giuliani:

From Human Events:

Rudy's Strong Pro-Abortion Stance

As these comments from a 1989 conversation with Phil Donahue show, Rudy Giuliani is staunchly in favor of abortion:

"I've said that I'll uphold a woman's right of choice, that I will fund abortion so that a poor woman is not deprived of a right that others can exercise, and that I would oppose going back to a day in which abortions were illegal.

I do that in spite of my own personal reservations. I have a daughter now; if a close relative or a daughter were pregnant, I would give my personal advice, my religious and moral views ...

Donahue: Which would be to continue the pregnancy.

Giuliani: Which would be that I would help her with taking care of the baby. But if the ultimate choice of the woman - my daughter or any other woman - would be that in this particular circumstance [if she had] to have an abortion, I'd support that. I'd give my daughter the money for it."

Worse yet, Giuliani even supports partial birth abortion:

"I'm pro-choice. I'm pro-gay rights,Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. "No, I have not supported that, and I don't see my position on that changing," he responded." -- CNN.com, "Inside Politics" Dec 2, 1999

It's bad enough that Rudy is so adamantly pro-abortion, but consider what that could mean when it comes time to select Supreme Court Justices. Does the description of Giuliani that you've just read make you think he's going to select an originalist like Clarence Thomas, who would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade -- or does it make you think he would prefer justices like Sandra Day O'Connor and Anthony Kennedy who'd leave Roe v. Wade in place?

Rudy's abortion stance is bad news for conservatives who are pro-life or who are concerned about getting originalist judges on the Supreme Court.

An Anti-Second Amendment Candidate

In the last couple of election cycles, 2nd Amendment issues have moved to the back burner mainly because even Democratic candidates have learned that being tagged with the "gun grabber" label is political poison.

Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani is a proponent of gun control who supported the Brady Bill and the Assault Weapon Ban.

Do Republicans really want to abandon their strong 2nd Amendment stance by selecting a pro-gun control nominee?

Soft on Gay Marriage

Other than tax cuts, the biggest domestic issue of the 2004 election was President Bush's support of a Constitutional Amendment to define marriage as being between a man and a woman. Unfortunately, Rudy Giuliani has taken a "Kerryesque" position on gay marriage.

Although Rudy, like John Kerry, has said that marriage should remain between a man and a woman, he also supports civil unions, "marched in gay-pride parades" ...dressed up in drag on national television for a skit on Saturday Night Live (and moved in with a) wealthy gay couple" after his divorce. He also very vocally opposed running on a gay marriage amendment:

His thoughts on the gay-marriage amendment? "I don't think you should run a campaign on this issue," he told the Daily News earlier this month. "I think it would be a mistake for anybody to run a campaign on it -- the Democrats, the president, or anybody else."

Here's more from the New York Daily News:

"Rudy Giuliani came out yesterday against President Bush's call for a ban on gay marriage.

The former mayor, who Vice President Cheney joked the other night is after his job, vigorously defended the President on his post-9/11 leadership but made clear he disagrees with Bush's proposal to rewrite the Constitution to outlaw gays and lesbians from tying the knot.

"I don't think it's ripe for decision at this point," he said on NBC's "Meet the Press."

"I certainly wouldn't support [a ban] at this time," added Giuliani..."

Although Rudy may grudgingly say he doesn't support gay marriage (and it would be political suicide for him to do otherwise), where he really stands on the issue is an open question.

Pro-Illegal Immigration

As Tom Bevan of RealClearPolitics has pointed out, Rudy is an adherent of the same approach to illegal immigration that John McCain, Ted Kennedy, George Bush, and Harry Reid have championed:

"While McCain has taken heat for his support of comprehensive immigration reform, Rudy is every bit as pro-immigration as McCain - if not more so. On the O'Reilly Factor last week Giuliani argued for a "practical approach" to immigration and cited his efforts as Mayor of New York City to "regularize" illegal immigrants by providing them with access to city services like public education to "make their lives reasonable." Giuliani did say that "a tremendous amount of money should be put into the physical security" needed to stop the flow of illegal immigrants coming across the border, but his overall position on immigration is essentially indistinguishable from McCain's."

That's bad enough. But, as Michelle Malkin has revealed, under Giuliani, New York was an illegal alien sanctuary and "America's Mayor" actually sued the federal government in an effort to keep New York City employees from having to cooperate with the INS:

"When Congress enacted immigration reform laws that forbade local governments from barring employees from cooperating with the INS, Mayor Rudy Giuliani filed suit against the feds in 1997. He was rebuffed by two lower courts, which ruled that the sanctuary order amounted to special treatment for illegal aliens and were nothing more than an unlawful effort to flaunt federal enforcement efforts against illegal aliens. In January 2000, the Supreme Court rejected his appeal, but Giuliani vowed to ignore the law."

If you agree with the way that Nancy Pelosi and Company deal with illegal immigration, then you'll find the way that Rudy Giuliani tackles the issue to be right down your alley.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE OF RUDY GIULIANI'S LEFT-WING POLITICAL POSITIONS



76 posted on 01/24/2007 10:32:34 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock
Dragging up 18 year old opinion pieces is not considered as proof of anything.

It is obvious that you are primarily here to disrupt any thread with Giuliani as the topic however. This is a bad thing to do on this forum. If you support Hunter or whom ever, go there and support your candidate. Being that you are clearly here to disrupt and you repeatedly do so on an hour by hour basis, it is probably time to lodge a complaint.
77 posted on 01/24/2007 10:38:48 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

A fellow poster sums it up better then I could:


Then the republican party should take note and run candiadates that although appeal to the middle keep the base solid. Rino Rudy will not do this.
If Rudy Giuliani, the most liberal Republican presidential candidate EVER, wins the nomination the Republican Party will experience a civil war like none seen before. The resulting two parties will be mortal enemies for some time. Bush's liberal agenda was the wedge. Rudy's liberalism will be the hammer blow to drive that wedge and split the party. Those FReepers here who keep supporting the most liberal Republican presidential candidate ever need to understand the consequences of their folly.


165 posted on 01/24/2007 10:37:38 AM PST by Spiff (Death before Dhimmitude)
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78 posted on 01/24/2007 10:42:05 AM PST by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: My2Cents
The "idealists" (both left and right) will stand by and let evil overtake the nation,

Meanwhile, Rudy spent his time as Mayor of NYC protecting the city's illegal alien sanctuary policy all the way to SCOTUS - and even when SCOTUS said that policy violated federal law, Rudy refused to change it.

So we're supposed to believe that Rudy will adhere to the Constitution and be a leader when he pulled a stunt like that? One that jeopardized law-abiding citizens by allowing illegal criminals to stay in the US and not be deported?

79 posted on 01/24/2007 10:42:43 AM PST by dirtboy (Duncan Hunter - I still like ya, but please read the 10th and get back to me regarding Congr pardons)
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To: Hydroshock

Us long term Freepers know who is credible and who is not.

In this case, NOT!

you are too new here to be making disruptive attacks on other peoples threads however.


80 posted on 01/24/2007 10:45:32 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (Show me a 'true' Conservative and I'll show you someone with bad knees)
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