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Cotton Mather Had a Point
Redstate.com ^ | 22 January 2007 | .cnI redruM

Posted on 01/22/2007 12:52:23 PM PST by .cnI redruM

“It Happens. So it’s Part of What We Are.” Said Robinson Devor on behalf of his new film about bestiality inflicted by men upon horses.

Now, I’ve heard every miserable and pathetic excuse in the book. We have successfully defined deviancy down to the bedrock and don’t have a sharp enough drill bit to sink it any lower. Daniel Patrick Moynihan would turn over in his grave, but not if Robinson Devor, the director of the movie “Zoo,” were anywhere near his final resting place.

Devor’s decent into the depths of human depravity was unveiled at this year’s Sundance Film Festival. Devor’s new “masterpiece” examines the aesthetic aspects of man-on-horse sexual relationships. No, I’m not exaggerating or making this up. Cine d’Arte now features aesthetic discussions of man-on-horse sexuality.

I’m not reacting angrily to the fact that Robinson Devor decided to make a movie about bestiality. I’m angry that he acts as if bestiality involves never having to say that you’re sorry. I’m even more thoroughly angry that this movie got a glowing review from Kenneth Turin of The Los Angeles Times.

"I aestheticized the sleaze right out of it." Devor claims proudly. I’m sure the creative geniuses that brought us “Laughing Tongues” also felt proud of the money shots. However, there are some things you can’t “aestheticize” the sleaze right out of. Getting your rocks off on a defenseless animal would have to belong on that list.

Twenty-five American soldiers dying in Iraq makes me sad, but I believe we can persevere through that. We made it past The Death March of Bataan and the landscape turned red at Anteitam. America can accept pain and suffering and still survive.

Yet, if this is what our nation’s artistic avant-garde admires, can we remain long on this earth as a nation? Isn’t our cultural heritage something we fight for? If this is the America the world sees at the movies, who can blame Osauma if he hates us. This cannot be what we are letting ourselves become.

The Sundance Film Festival propaganda describes the film as follows:

“The cinematic language invented for the film permits us to examine where we draw the line, how much perversity we can tolerate in others. In a broader sense, Zoo is really about thresholds. What can we stand to know, and, more importantly, what can we stand to accept?”

These guys get their enjoyment from sexually molesting horses. Should I really have to examine whether I’d find this beyond the pale of acceptable human desires? Are there people sitting near my cube in the office thinking? “Gosh, why do we get so bent out of shape over guys who molest the livestock?” Not if our society is any way worth approving.

On most moral issues, I’d probably aggravate a healthy plurality of the modern Conservative Movement. I really don’t care what two human beings above any reasonable age of consent do to one another by mutual agreement and in the privacy of their own homes. It's just that there has to be a limit to the level of acceptable behavior somewhere. A grate has to be installed above the sewer.

“It Happens. So it’s Part of What We Are.” Devor pontificates.

"I aestheticized the sleaze right out of it." Devor brags.

Devor cannot be right in either assertion. He cannot be deemed logical if we are to remain civilized. A line has to be drawn somewhere to arrest this appalling moral decay. It has gotten bad enough that I’m thinking that maybe mean old Reverend Cotton Mather legitimately had a point.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: beastiality; beastly; bestial; bestiality; betiality; deviancy; homosexualagenda; leftwing; moralabsolutes; movies; pervert; rideemcowboy; sex; sleaze; sundance
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To: .cnI redruM
the film permits us to examine where we draw the line, how much perversity we can tolerate in others.

Yes, how much evil can we tolerate in others? That would be a measure of our moral cowardice.

41 posted on 01/22/2007 1:59:50 PM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: Borges

Wasn't Brokeback Mountain a Sundance film?

And that Al Gore POS?

I can't remember. I pay as much attention to this garbage as I do to whether Paris Hilton pleads not guilty, or if Lindsay Lohan is in rehab or if Rosie is scarfing down 5 enchiladas and calling Trump some names again.

Someone tell me again how this is a multi-billion dollar industry?????


42 posted on 01/22/2007 2:05:24 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd

'Brokeback Mountain' premiered at the Venice Film Festival. Redford's whole idea behind Sundance was to display films that initially couldn't get Hollywood backing. How is the publishing industry so big with so many bad books? It's a large industry.


43 posted on 01/22/2007 2:12:52 PM PST by Borges
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To: robertpaulsen

Good riddance.

And why aren't the PETA nazis protesting this? Maybe they figure the horses like it, so no problem.


44 posted on 01/22/2007 2:20:52 PM PST by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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On most moral issues, I’d probably aggravate a healthy plurality of the modern Conservative Movement. I really don’t care what two human beings above any reasonable age of consent do to one another by mutual agreement and in the privacy of their own homes. It's just that there has to be a limit to the level of acceptable behavior somewhere. A grate has to be installed above the sewer.

Excuse me, but by turning your head to homosexuality, you are allowing in the next things; like incest and beastiality and child molestation.

I guess we dont need to ask if it was a young horse?....

45 posted on 01/22/2007 2:24:20 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: robertpaulsen

No, fourty years ago, this is how they described Rosemary's Baby!


46 posted on 01/22/2007 2:25:08 PM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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To: .cnI redruM
"We have successfully defined deviancy down to the bedrock and don’t have a sharp enough drill bit to sink it any lower."

Don't bet on it.

47 posted on 01/22/2007 2:29:11 PM PST by null and void (<----- Shocked and odd...)
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To: .cnI redruM
I'm glad I'M not a sick puppy!

What's next?

Tijuana donkeys??

48 posted on 01/22/2007 2:36:45 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: RaceBannon

There were walk outs at the initial 1951 screenings of 'A Streetcar Named Desire' claiming that Hollywood had sank to ann all time low of perversion.


49 posted on 01/22/2007 2:39:57 PM PST by Borges
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To: .cnI redruM

Why this is happening...

Romans 1:21-32 Because that, when THEY KNEW GOD, they GLORIFIED HIM NOT AS GOD, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And CHANGED the glory of the uncorruptible God into an IMAGE made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

-->> Wherefore GOD ALSO GAVE THEM UP TO uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

-->> And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.


50 posted on 01/22/2007 2:56:33 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: .cnI redruM
I really don’t care what two human beings above any reasonable age of consent do to one another by mutual agreement and in the privacy of their own homes. It's just that there has to be a limit to the level of acceptable behavior somewhere.

Yet when that limit is drawn at homosexual marriage, the limiters are condemned as narrow-minded bigots. When it is drawn at raunchy sex scenes in movies, the limiters are derided as puritan prudes. When it is drawn at promotions of promiscuity or enticement to perversion, the limiters are ignored as repressed bible-thumpers.

This critic acts outraged by this slime, yet he tolerates it in lesser degree every day. The line should have been drawn long ago, and would have, except for people like him.

He deserves to drown in his own filth.

51 posted on 01/22/2007 2:57:41 PM PST by IronJack (=)
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To: robertpaulsen
"Basically, his colon was ruptured, along with his lower organs in that region, and he bled out," Sortland said.

Darwin Award

52 posted on 01/22/2007 3:03:59 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: .cnI redruM

"I'm glad I'M not a sick puppy!"

If you were, this filmmaker might be tempted to make a movie about it. :-)

This is just another example of the bar being lowered on perversion. So we're at movies glorifying bestiality now. I guess next year's moondance festival will include cannibalism of small children...just to push that bar a little lower.


53 posted on 01/22/2007 3:06:40 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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To: .cnI redruM

Such disgusting liberal enlightenment makes Cotton Mather's strict Puritanism look appealing. If the hammer of censorship is ever slammed down here, whose fault will it be? -- the hammer wielder's or the subversive slime that called it forth?


54 posted on 01/22/2007 3:23:38 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: .cnI redruM
Well, buggery is already acceptable, pederasty is getting there, so the next step on the progression is bestiality.
55 posted on 01/22/2007 3:39:01 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

"I guess next year's moondance festival will include cannibalism of small children...just to push that bar a little lower."

Exactly. Snuff films are next.


56 posted on 01/22/2007 3:42:06 PM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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To: gidget7
Both categories are depraved! Not only depraved, they are barbaric!! Animals have more common sense and decency than these supposed humans do!

If the horse in question had common sense and decency, perhaps it would not have anally sexed that poor man to death.

57 posted on 01/22/2007 4:39:22 PM PST by Caesar Soze
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To: Esther Ruth

bump with no comment.


58 posted on 01/22/2007 4:44:12 PM PST by Ciexyz (In all thy ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct thy paths. Proverbs 3:6)
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To: .cnI redruM
Now, I’ve heard every miserable and pathetic excuse in the book. We have successfully defined deviancy down to the bedrock and don’t have a sharp enough drill bit to sink it any lower.

Oh, now let's not resort to hyperbole.

We still have necrophilia, necrozoophelia, and even Helethomasophelia still fairly much off-limits.

59 posted on 01/22/2007 4:48:28 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Islam: a Satanically Transmitted Disease, spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus.)
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To: metmom
Smallpox vaccines.

In fact, Mather had his house firebombed by some fanatic who insisted the Bible said that diseases were God's punishment, not to be cured.

60 posted on 01/22/2007 5:10:45 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian
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