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Parents Say Discipline Isn't Working on Kids
Live Science ^ | 01/09/07

Posted on 01/09/2007 3:03:21 PM PST by presidio9

If you think you’re the only parent struggling to rear an unruly child destined to become a careless member of the society, think again. Almost one-third of parents believe their disciplining styles are ineffective.

In a survey of more than 2,000 parents of children between the ages of 2 and 11, researchers for the first time examined four common ways of disciplining kids —“time-outs,” removal of privileges, yelling and spanking.

More than 45 percent of the parents reported using time-outs as a disciplinary action. Almost 42 percent removed their child’s privileges, followed by 13 percent who resorted to yelling and 9 percent who opted to spank their children, the researchers report in the January issue of the journal Clinical Pediatrics.

Almost 31 percent of participants reported they believed their methods were not effective, and more than 38 percent were using the same discipline methods their own parents used on them as a child.

“There was actually an inverse relationship between self-reports of yelling at children and perceived effectiveness of discipline,” said lead study author Shari Barkin, a physician at the Monroe Carell Jr. Children’s Hospital at Vanderbilt. “But we strongly suspect that both yelling and spanking might be underreported, because we know when parents perceive their methods are not working, as one-third reported, then emotions can quickly escalate,” she said.

Barkin and colleagues think pediatricians should address discipline when parents bring their children to the doctor’s office for visits.

“Discipline is a central element of what parents do every day, and it’s important to develop systems to support parents so that they can apply positive parenting to improve outcomes in children,” Barkin told LiveScience.com.

“In this study, we altered the manner in which we asked families about discipline," she explained. "This created a shared dialogue rather than a lecture."


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To: Bluestateredman
I repeat, from #57:

There is a huge difference between discipline and abuse. They should not be confused.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1764946/posts?page=57#57

101 posted on 01/09/2007 6:30:08 PM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: Albion Wilde
I tried to explain "why" even if the explanation was as silly as "I don't want you to make a fool out of yourself if the President of the United States ever invites you to the White House for dinner."

And I thought ours was the only house to use that reason at the dinner table!

With my mother it was: "You'll be able to dine with the Queen of England."

102 posted on 01/09/2007 6:31:37 PM PST by lakey
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

"Now I'm blind."

Well, we all know what causes that. But Rosie?


103 posted on 01/09/2007 6:34:23 PM PST by lawdude (2006: The election"s we will live to die for!)
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To: flynmudd

Well, you know what they say about preacher's kids!


104 posted on 01/09/2007 6:35:44 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Eagle Eye

maybe or they don't want to end up in jail for spanking the kid


105 posted on 01/09/2007 6:45:50 PM PST by heavenbound (Taglines are good)
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To: bonfire

No I don't. Why don't you tell me?/sarc

I've heard that one before. I was the good child that never got into trouble. The word "guilt" is inscribed on the inside of my eyelids. If I wasn't within eyesight of my parents, I always knew God was watching me.


106 posted on 01/09/2007 6:46:24 PM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSA Blalock-DDG 61)
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To: ShadowDancer

If there is anything lamer than a spell-check nazi (except of course John Edwards) I don't know what it is.


107 posted on 01/09/2007 6:47:04 PM PST by presidio9 (It's "news" that New Jersey smells bad?)
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To: Albion Wilde

Pssst: Condoleezza Rice is Pro-abortion. Pass it on.


108 posted on 01/09/2007 6:47:39 PM PST by presidio9 (It's "news" that New Jersey smells bad?)
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To: lawdude
Well, we all know what causes that.

ZING!

109 posted on 01/09/2007 6:48:27 PM PST by presidio9 (It's "news" that New Jersey smells bad?)
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To: flynmudd

I was raised exactly the same. My father died when I was 24 and I'm now 53 and I still feel those eyes on me! That and my other Father.


110 posted on 01/09/2007 6:51:45 PM PST by bonfire
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To: Albion Wilde

Yup. The same look that my wife gives me more times that I'd like to admit.


111 posted on 01/09/2007 6:52:29 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: presidio9

What works for one not always works for another but...
My folks used a merit/demerit system that worked most of the time.

Chores were assigned to be done at specific times.
Chores done on time got full 100% rating with a loss of 10% per hour for delay. Chores not done at all got no points.
All chores completed on time for the whole week got matching points which doubled the weeks standard allowance.

In other words there was a base allowance which would be paid if the chores got done, even late. But it could be forfeited entirely if no chores were done at all but double the base allowance if all chores were done on time.

No allowance effectively grounds most kids who have no money to go out and do things. I can't remember a time when the chores didn't get done, even if late.

This discipline bled over to all aspects of our behavior.


112 posted on 01/09/2007 6:53:41 PM PST by Joan Kerrey (Believe nothing of what you hear or read and half of what you see.)
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To: Joan Kerrey

I had chores every day after homework. The usual, vacuum, dust, take out the trash and change the litterbox. Fun stuff. Another reason I never got into trouble.


113 posted on 01/09/2007 6:59:27 PM PST by flynmudd (Proud Navy Mom to OSSA Blalock-DDG 61)
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To: presidio9

A parental fear of consistancy.

Disipline doesn't have to be brutal or mean. Just well thought out, appropriate, and above all, consistent.

This "study" is worthless. As are most so called studies of this nature.


114 posted on 01/09/2007 7:05:14 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s......you weren't really there)
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To: stm

I think my mother obliterated a small forest, wiping out an entire indigenous population with all the wooden spoons she broke over my ass.


115 posted on 01/09/2007 7:05:29 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Cicero

You left out one factor. Child Protective Services. In Washington state, they can do as they damn well please with no internal restraints. They are a bunch of liberal social workers who have either raised loser kids of their own or have none at all.
Their philosophy is simple. If a kid badmouths their parents they are telling the truth. If they won't they are either being coerced by their parents or brainwashed. If the child says anything bad about CPS or their allies in the public schools the kid is a liar.


116 posted on 01/09/2007 7:06:45 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

Yes. It can be pretty scary.

And it filters down through the schools. Kids are told to report their parents.


117 posted on 01/09/2007 7:12:18 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: bonfire
I still feel those eyes on me!

To this day, I can't cuss in front of my mother.

118 posted on 01/09/2007 7:12:39 PM PST by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: Albion Wilde

That's it! My mother had it down too. Dang, someone should bottle it.


119 posted on 01/09/2007 7:13:14 PM PST by FReepapalooza
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To: HKMk23

Sounds like you went to the same school that I did.


120 posted on 01/09/2007 7:14:55 PM PST by FReepapalooza
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