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Third of U.S. parents doubt benefits of discipline
MonstersandCritics.com ^ | 1/9/07

Posted on 01/09/2007 12:21:16 PM PST by Paddlefish

About one in three parents in the United States and Canada do not think their methods of disciplining their children work well, according to a U.S. study.

Dr. Shari Barkin, at Tennessee's Monroe Carell Jr. Children's Hospital at Vanderbilt found 31 percent of about 5,000 parents surveyed said they 'never' or 'sometimes' perceived their methods to be effective.

Many of those reported turning into their own parents when it came to discipline, with 38 percent using the same methods their own parents used on them as children.

'It was surprising to see how many parents feel that disciplining their children is ineffective,' Barkin said in a telephone interview.

'Many are using the same techniques their parents used on them but don't think they really work.'

The study, based on a survey of parents through community based doctors in 32 U.S. states, Puerto Rico and Canada, found the most common form of discipline was using time-outs, with 45 percent of parents using this method.

It found 41.5 percent of parents removed privileges, while 13 percent reported yelling at their children, and 8.5 percent reported the use of spanking 'often or always.'

'But we strongly suspect that both yelling and spanking might be underreported,' said Barkin, whose study is published in the January issue of the journal Clinical Pediatrics.

'We know when parents perceive their methods are not working. As a third reported, then emotions can quickly escalate.'

She said by the time children reached the six to 11-year-old age range, parents were about 25 percent less likely to report using time-outs and spanking as they were with younger children.

When children reached school age, parents reported a heavier use of taking away privileges and yelling.

But even in the older age range, perception that the discipline might not be working persisted.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: discipline; kids; parents
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1 posted on 01/09/2007 12:21:20 PM PST by Paddlefish
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To: Paddlefish

100% of violent crime victims wonder if parental discipline isn't such a bad thing.


2 posted on 01/09/2007 12:31:37 PM PST by wideawake
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To: Paddlefish

Somebody call Nanny 911!


3 posted on 01/09/2007 12:35:58 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: Paddlefish

As Bender would say: "Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?'


4 posted on 01/09/2007 12:36:15 PM PST by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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To: Paddlefish
Third of U.S. parents doubt benefits of discipline

This is news? You only have to go out in public to find this out.

5 posted on 01/09/2007 12:38:27 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: everyone

Consistency is key.


6 posted on 01/09/2007 12:39:17 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. Now I try to be amused.)
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To: Paddlefish
'Many are using the same techniques their parents used on them but don't think they really work.'

That's because their parents read Spock or Summerhill. They need to turn to their grandparents.

7 posted on 01/09/2007 12:39:56 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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we strongly suspect that both yelling and spanking might be underreported

Yelling just lets the kids know that they are in charge.

8 posted on 01/09/2007 12:41:16 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: Paddlefish
By far, the biggest mistakes I see parents make with regard to discipline are these:

If a parent explains clear lines of expected behavior, honors those same boundaries in his own conduct and consistently applies a reasonable, significant negative consequence for violating them, then he'll have very few problems.

Praise and attention during good behavior is another critical element, IMO.

(Yes, I'm a parent. I even have teenagers!)

9 posted on 01/09/2007 12:42:53 PM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Paddlefish

Parents (to their child's counselor): "Hey, we've tried nothing... and it hasn't worked!"


10 posted on 01/09/2007 12:43:48 PM PST by spinestein (Remember to follow the Brazen Rule!)
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To: Paddlefish

Another problem with discipline is that half of children live in a home with no father in it, or perhaps only visit their father two weekends a month. Two parents (one of each gender) in a stable household is the superior "alternative".


11 posted on 01/09/2007 12:49:29 PM PST by spinestein (Remember to follow the Brazen Rule!)
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To: TChris

Your suggestions are wonderfully clear and right on the money, IMO.


12 posted on 01/09/2007 12:54:19 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: LukeL

That's funny.


13 posted on 01/09/2007 12:54:39 PM PST by 68skylark
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To: spinestein

we have the same outlook, and rule as Gene Simmons with raising children "Obey your Mother, Fear your Father". Ours are turning out pretty good. But when we're out we always cringe at some children's behavior.


14 posted on 01/09/2007 12:56:19 PM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: Marie2

Exactly.

That is the hardest part because for those who don't have children or who don't get it - children will test you more than once about the exact same thing.

I think too many parents get to the place where they're thinking "how many times do I have to tell them they can't do "x"? and the parent just gives up. Then they have to start over preventing the child from doing "x" or the child simply does "x" from then on.


15 posted on 01/09/2007 12:57:07 PM PST by Let's Roll ("...given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor - you will have war"- W.Churchill)
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To: Paddlefish
There's a difference between "discipline" and corporeal punishment.

My daughters know the difference quite well.
They were "disciplined" as often as they needed.
They were corporeally punished very little.

One is 23 with a young family of her own now.
The other is 20 and living on her own.
I'm proud of both.

16 posted on 01/09/2007 12:57:23 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Paddlefish
The study, based on a survey of parents through community based doctors in 32 U.S. states, Puerto Rico and Canada, found the most common form of discipline was using time-outs, with 45 percent of parents using this method.

Ya think this might not work?

17 posted on 01/09/2007 12:58:10 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: LukeL

As I used to tell my friends. " Children tend to listen when they know you can order a cattle prod by mail and have it delivered overnight"


18 posted on 01/09/2007 1:05:04 PM PST by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: wideawake

Todays parents are stupid and lazy and selfish.Todays parents never had discipline themselves so are unqualified to judge.In their defense,even if they wanted to invoke discipline the courts,cops and social workers would have them thrown in jail.Since when is it constitutional for the courts or anyone else to tell you how to raise a family?


19 posted on 01/09/2007 1:05:05 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Marie2

YEP...."Consistency"......when my son was young....when I said "NO" he KNEW I meant it! And, I don't remember spanking him...except maybe a little swat once or twice when he was under 2.


20 posted on 01/09/2007 1:05:55 PM PST by goodnesswins (We need to cure Academentia)
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