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1 posted on 01/09/2007 12:21:20 PM PST by Paddlefish
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100% of violent crime victims wonder if parental discipline isn't such a bad thing.


2 posted on 01/09/2007 12:31:37 PM PST by wideawake
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Somebody call Nanny 911!


3 posted on 01/09/2007 12:35:58 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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As Bender would say: "Have you ever tried simply turning off the TV, sitting down with your children, and hitting them?'


4 posted on 01/09/2007 12:36:15 PM PST by LukeL (Never let the enemy pick the battle site. (Gen. George S. Patton))
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Third of U.S. parents doubt benefits of discipline

This is news? You only have to go out in public to find this out.

5 posted on 01/09/2007 12:38:27 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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'Many are using the same techniques their parents used on them but don't think they really work.'

That's because their parents read Spock or Summerhill. They need to turn to their grandparents.

7 posted on 01/09/2007 12:39:56 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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we strongly suspect that both yelling and spanking might be underreported

Yelling just lets the kids know that they are in charge.

8 posted on 01/09/2007 12:41:16 PM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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By far, the biggest mistakes I see parents make with regard to discipline are these:

If a parent explains clear lines of expected behavior, honors those same boundaries in his own conduct and consistently applies a reasonable, significant negative consequence for violating them, then he'll have very few problems.

Praise and attention during good behavior is another critical element, IMO.

(Yes, I'm a parent. I even have teenagers!)

9 posted on 01/09/2007 12:42:53 PM PST by TChris (We scoff at honor and are shocked to find traitors among us. - C.S. Lewis)
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Parents (to their child's counselor): "Hey, we've tried nothing... and it hasn't worked!"


10 posted on 01/09/2007 12:43:48 PM PST by spinestein (Remember to follow the Brazen Rule!)
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Another problem with discipline is that half of children live in a home with no father in it, or perhaps only visit their father two weekends a month. Two parents (one of each gender) in a stable household is the superior "alternative".


11 posted on 01/09/2007 12:49:29 PM PST by spinestein (Remember to follow the Brazen Rule!)
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There's a difference between "discipline" and corporeal punishment.

My daughters know the difference quite well.
They were "disciplined" as often as they needed.
They were corporeally punished very little.

One is 23 with a young family of her own now.
The other is 20 and living on her own.
I'm proud of both.

16 posted on 01/09/2007 12:57:23 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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The study, based on a survey of parents through community based doctors in 32 U.S. states, Puerto Rico and Canada, found the most common form of discipline was using time-outs, with 45 percent of parents using this method.

Ya think this might not work?

17 posted on 01/09/2007 12:58:10 PM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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Woman in grocery store to young son, "We really really need to sit down in the grocery cart, OK ?" 3 yo ignores the wishy-washy tone and continues to use the grocery cart and shelves as a jungle gym. Mom sighs and doesn't follow up.

Grrrr !


21 posted on 01/09/2007 1:10:53 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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parents surveyed said they 'never' or 'sometimes' perceived their methods to be effective

That's because it often takes years to show. Our society wants quick fixes. First of all, you can't "fix" people and second, discipline, along with many other things, helps direct a young person over many, many years and situations. To expect to see immediate change is not understanding parenthood.

24 posted on 01/09/2007 1:14:31 PM PST by twigs
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I have seen so many parents tell their children to stop doing something and then do NOTHING to follow up when the kids keep right on doing what they were told not to do. If you tell a child to stop doing something, you MUST be prepared to get up out of your chair and take hold of him or her and physically stop the forbidden activity. If you say stop and follow up, the message is clear. If you say stop and then do nothing, the message is also clear.


25 posted on 01/09/2007 1:18:23 PM PST by Irene Adler (')
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Spare the Rod, Spoil the Child

Corporal punishment is often used in our home with our two boys. Sometimes, they just don't get it from just "time outs" and need to be spanked on the behind.

My parents used the same discipline on me and I thank them for taking the time and effort to be consistent and loving in their discipline.


27 posted on 01/09/2007 1:37:18 PM PST by Lucky9teen (You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation.)
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As they say in the 'hood "you ain't got no home trainin'."


28 posted on 01/09/2007 1:40:45 PM PST by manic4organic
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If you're a bad pet owner, don't have children.


If you're a bad parent, don't own pets.


32 posted on 01/09/2007 1:54:15 PM PST by wolfcreek (Please Lord, May I be, one who sees what's in front of me.)
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You don't have to beat kids, all you have to do is be consistent. The hard part is that you have to always be consistent!
36 posted on 01/09/2007 2:20:44 PM PST by SmartAZ
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The study, based on a survey of parents through community based doctors in 32 U.S. states, Puerto Rico and Canada, found the most common form of discipline was using time-outs, with 45 percent of parents using this method.

Use of the game term "Time-out" implicity suggests to the child a percieved lack of seriousness on the parents part.

44 posted on 01/09/2007 3:19:19 PM PST by fso301
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The problem I see, over and over again, is either inconsistency or talking children to death. When your words are backed up by action, you don't have to yell or repeat yourself endlessly.

It seems to me that women will talk a problem to death, or negotiate endlessly. Men are less reluctant to discipline, but they tend to be inattentive to their children.

49 posted on 01/10/2007 5:32:55 AM PST by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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