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Hmong Hunter's Death Has Wis. on Edge
AP via SFGate ^ | 1/7/7 | EMILY FREDRIX

Posted on 01/07/2007 5:54:45 PM PST by SmithL

Green Bay -- A Hmong hunter has been found dead in a wildlife area in a case that is stirring memories of a mass shooting that exposed racial tensions.

Cha Vang, 30, of Green Bay, was found dead Saturday morning, a night after he was reported missing in the Peshtigo Harbor Wildlife Area in northeastern Wisconsin. Investigators have not said how they believe he died but said they are treating the case as a homicide. An autopsy is planned for Monday.

Authorities detained a 28-year-old Peshtigo man, James Nichols, who showed up at a medical center Saturday with a gunshot wound that wasn't life-threatening, said Laurel Steffes, a spokeswoman for the Marinette County Sheriff's Department. He is considered a person of interest but was being held on a parole violation from an unrelated burglary conviction and had not been charged in Vang's death, she said.

Dealings between the Hmong, an ethnic minority group from Southeast Asia, and predominantly white residents of the mostly rural north woods have been on edge since November 2004, when Hmong immigrant Chai Soua Vang, 38, of St. Paul, Minn., killed six white hunters and injured two while trespassing in a private tree stand.

Chai Vang claimed he acted in self-defense after they shouted racial epithets, cursed at him and one fired a shot in his direction. The former truck driver is serving multiple life terms.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: assimilation; greenbay; hmong; hunted; racial; racism; racist; racists; wisconsin
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To: muawiyah; Paladin2; SmithL; labette; Diana in Wisconsin

Aside from the stand of trees vs. tree stand semantics, the suspect had a bullet wound himself. anybody know more about this story?


61 posted on 01/07/2007 10:41:38 PM PST by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Petruchio; Kryptonite
I hear that, Petruchio.

Not much is being said around here yet, Kryp. Last time, it all started with a manhunt so a lot of information busted out in a hurry. I'm sure the authorities will try to keep a lid on things for awhile until they have a clearer understanding of what happened.

62 posted on 01/08/2007 5:54:02 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) "If God is not, everything is permitted." Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Ping.


63 posted on 01/08/2007 5:56:00 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) "If God is not, everything is permitted." Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
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To: khnyny

Exactly right. The press is just being true to form; failing to give relevant details.


64 posted on 01/08/2007 6:03:04 AM PST by Ladysmith ((NRA, SAS) "If God is not, everything is permitted." Fyodor Dostoyevsky)
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To: Revolting cat!

I thought Jefferson wanted it to go to the pfaltzgraff.


65 posted on 01/08/2007 6:03:11 AM PST by JZelle
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To: Clemenza
Not "most of upstate New York", "part of upstate New York". But alas, they fought for the United Kingdom in the Revolution so they LOST their best stuff. Their reserves are mostly in Canada these days and are protected by the same Treaty of Paris that granted the American colonies their independence and capacity as independent states.

Now the Oneida fought for the United States of America and were promised all sorts of stuff by George Washington, Congress and others.

Eventually the state of New York managed to steal their land and kick them out.

A few years ago the Oneida won a battle in the Supreme Court to have their rights restored. New York was then given the opportunity to provide land to the Oneida in the requisite quantity.

This is currently under way.

At the same time the Oneida were given the opportunity to open a casino so they could raise the money from among the now native New Yorkers to purchase all that land for the Oneida orphans and widows.

You were, of course, thinking of the entire Iriquoian Confederation when you said "Mohawk".

66 posted on 01/08/2007 6:03:20 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Kryptonite; Ladysmith

Additional details. SF Gate is the one with their panties in a wad, playing on the horrors of an actual massacre. Wisconsin is not "on edge" over this. It wouldn't have even made the papers were it not for the original Vang murder spree.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=550121


67 posted on 01/08/2007 6:21:07 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: labette

"..taking his Corvette for a joy ride."

If you are a bow hunter, it's more like someone doing missionary work with your wife.


68 posted on 01/08/2007 6:39:51 AM PST by burroak
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To: Ladysmith

Thanks..


69 posted on 01/08/2007 6:58:39 AM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily. Apply Sparingly.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I was being totally sarcastic, dude.


70 posted on 01/08/2007 9:03:06 AM PST by gaijin
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..

If you'd like to be on or off this Upper Midwest (WI, IA, MN, MI, and anyone else) list, largely rural issues, please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.


71 posted on 01/08/2007 9:32:56 AM PST by SJackson (If you dress like a sex object you’ll be treated like one, Madeleine Albright (from experience?))
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To: xJones
To hell with diversity, the Hmong are out of place, it's time to go back home. And they have fared far better here than white Wisconsins would have in southeast Asia. Think of all the social benefits and welfare the Hmong have received....

Better yet we could shoot them. Serves them right for fighting at our side in Southeast Asia

72 posted on 01/08/2007 9:34:20 AM PST by SJackson (If you dress like a sex object you’ll be treated like one, Madeleine Albright (from experience?))
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To: muawiyah
See how the whites, blacks and asians have screwed the place up, maybe we ought to just give ALL of Wisconsin up to the Oneida

Who would go to the casinos?

73 posted on 01/08/2007 9:35:00 AM PST by SJackson (If you dress like a sex object you’ll be treated like one, Madeleine Albright (from experience?))
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To: geopyg
Threads on the Vang incident. The liklihood that Chai Vang acted in self-defense is zero.

And there very well may be a "cultural" misunderstanding aspect to this latest case as well. Things such as private property, game limits, hunting seasons, etc.

He was hunting on public land. In all liklihood there's a victim and a murderer.

74 posted on 01/08/2007 9:37:05 AM PST by SJackson (If you dress like a sex object you’ll be treated like one, Madeleine Albright (from experience?))
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To: El Gato
Unless it was misdemeanor conviction, which seems highly unlikely, this guy had no business out in the words with a gun, since he's prohibited by federal law from having one.

Per another thread,Nichols was convicted in Marinette County of several felony burglary charges in 1996. Penalties for federal and state firearms violations and poaching can be added to his life sentence.

75 posted on 01/08/2007 9:40:25 AM PST by SJackson (If you dress like a sex object you’ll be treated like one, Madeleine Albright (from experience?))
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To: muawiyah
This is a hunting technique analogous to shooting doves on telephone lines.

Even better some guys plant a bunch of corn and throw out apples by their tree stands. The deer don't just wander by, they come to eat. The hunters then shoot them while they're eating.

Talk about lazy hunters - sitting in adult tree houses.

76 posted on 01/08/2007 9:40:51 AM PST by ladyjane
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To: Kryptonite
Aside from the stand of trees vs. tree stand semantics, the suspect had a bullet wound himself. anybody know more about this story?

See the link to threads in post 74, there were dozens on FR, and a Vang ping list for awhile.

He had no bullet wound, most of the hunters he killed were unarmed. Vang, who had skipped on a tresspassing charge in Green county, was tresspassing on the victims land, after being thrown off as a tresspasser the year before. Words ensued, and Vang opened fire.

77 posted on 01/08/2007 9:45:21 AM PST by SJackson (If you dress like a sex object you’ll be treated like one, Madeleine Albright (from experience?))
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To: SJackson

Again, there are two Vangs; not all the articles in the search list in your link are about this Vang (the one recently shot and killed, and not accused or killing other people).


78 posted on 01/08/2007 9:45:38 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

You can tell from the titles. This story is only a couple days old.


79 posted on 01/08/2007 9:47:25 AM PST by SJackson (If you dress like a sex object you’ll be treated like one, Madeleine Albright (from experience?))
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To: SJackson
Suppose so....
the label of your link is still "Vang incident," rather than the more accurate "Vangs incidents."

80 posted on 01/08/2007 9:53:26 AM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, Brietbart.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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