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1 posted on 01/07/2007 1:28:35 PM PST by Coleus
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2 posted on 01/07/2007 1:29:03 PM PST by Coleus (Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
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The heliocentric model was also proclaimed incompatible with the Catholic faith, yet the Earth does move, and Catholicism abides.


3 posted on 01/07/2007 1:32:39 PM PST by AntiGuv ("..I do things for political expediency.." - Sen. John McCain on FOX News)
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Once upon a time, a sun-centered solar system was incompatible with Catholicism.


4 posted on 01/07/2007 1:33:32 PM PST by Brilliant
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he needs to evolve.


5 posted on 01/07/2007 1:37:25 PM PST by GSlob
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meanwhile, in his grave, Galileo rolls over.
6 posted on 01/07/2007 1:38:06 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. .... you'll run the bill up kid!....)
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Atheists, by definition must not accept intelligent design in any form. Theists, on the other hand obviously believe there is a designer behind the scenes. Either God created the universe or the universe created itself. Which is more fantastic?

There can be no compromise by the atheistic view, since it is cast in concrete. There is no god, therefore there could be no intelligent design, period, end of story. The intelligent design view, on the other hand, can have an infinite number of interpretaions and beliefs within it.


11 posted on 01/07/2007 1:41:47 PM PST by OK
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Cardinal backs evolution and "intelligent design"

PARIS (Reuters) - A senior Roman Catholic cardinal seen as a champion of "intelligent design" against Darwin's explanation of life has described the theory of evolution as "one of the very great works of intellectual history."

Vienna Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn said he could believe both in divine creation and in evolution because one was a question of religion and the other of science, two realms that complimented rather than contradicted each other.

Schoenborn's view, presented in a lecture published by his office on Tuesday, tempered earlier statements that seemed to ally the Church with United States conservatives campaigning against the teaching of evolution in public schools.

A court in Pennsylvania is now hearing a suit brought by parents against a school district that teaches intelligent design -- the view that life is so complex some higher being must have designed it -- alongside evolution in biology class.

"Without a doubt, Darwin pulled off quite a feat with his main work and it remains one of the very great works of intellectual history," Schoenborn declared in a lecture in St. Stephen's Cathedral in Vienna on Sunday.

"I see no problem combining belief in the Creator with the theory of evolution, under one condition -- that the limits of a scientific theory are respected," he said.

Science studies what is observable and scientists overstep the boundaries of their discipline when they conclude evolution proves there was no creator, said the cardinal, 60, a top Church doctrinal expert and close associate of Pope Benedict.

"It is fully reasonable to assume some sense or design even if the scientific method demands restrictions that shut out this question," said the cardinal.


13 posted on 01/07/2007 1:47:11 PM PST by Varda
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When I look a painting, I know there is a painter. When I look at creation, I KNOW there is a Creator.


17 posted on 01/07/2007 1:52:28 PM PST by Arcy
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"The New York Times, never missing an opportunity to bash prominent Catholic prelates . . ."

Gee, what are the odds that the old gray whore has ever closely questioned muzzie immams as to the origins of life, etc?
21 posted on 01/07/2007 1:54:19 PM PST by Jacquerie (Social Justice: An impossible dream so enticing it will justify any crime to achieve it.)
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"The second law of thermodynamics (entropy) dictates that an infinite amount of organization (hence, design) existed in the singularity of the Big Bang.

Life is organization. From prokaryotic cells, eukaryotic cells, tissues, and organs, to plants and animals, families, communities, ecosystems, and living planets, life is organization, at every scale. The evolution of life is the increase of biological organization, if it is anything. Clearly, if life originates and makes evolutionary progress without organizing input from outside, then something has organized itself. Logical entropy in a closed system has decreased. This is the violation that people are getting at, when they say that life violates the second law of thermodynamics. This violation, the decrease of logical entropy in a closed system, must happen continually in the darwinian account of evolutionary progress. Most darwinists just ignore this staggering problem. When confronted with it, they seek refuge in the confusion between the two kinds of entropy. Entropy [logical] has not decreased, they say, because the system is not closed. Energy such as sunlight is constantly supplied to the system. If you consider the larger system that includes the sun, entropy [thermodynamic] has increased, as required.

It is surprising that mixing entropy and biology still fosters confusion. The relevant concepts from physics pertaining to the second law of thermodynamics are at least 100 years old. The confusion can be eradicated if we distinguish thermodynamic from logical entropy, and admit that Earth's biological system is open to organizing input from outside."

That outside source is God. ;)
47 posted on 01/07/2007 3:05:10 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts ("So, I put on some tangerine lip gloss and answered the door.. I was one lucky woman.")
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http://www.near-death.com/physics.html


49 posted on 01/07/2007 3:06:00 PM PST by divine_moment_of_facts ("So, I put on some tangerine lip gloss and answered the door.. I was one lucky woman.")
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He doesn't want to admit that all those Roman Catholics who use birth control , who practise abortion, and who are oragnizing demographic warfare against the USA from Mexico, are particpating in their own natural selection process to strengthen the human species.
50 posted on 01/07/2007 3:10:52 PM PST by Candor7
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Pennsylvania's Federal Judge-Dictator Jones will surely rule that this Catholism is not a religion.


51 posted on 01/07/2007 3:11:52 PM PST by bvw
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I'm a Catholic, and Darwinism happens.
55 posted on 01/07/2007 3:27:59 PM PST by ExtremeUnction
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ping. (if you didn't already get pinged).


58 posted on 01/07/2007 3:52:50 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( WND, NewsMax, Townhall.com, and Drudge Report are not valid news sources.)
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the notion of a personal God who created life, the universe and everything.

42!

TS

59 posted on 01/07/2007 4:07:50 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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"... it is Catholics teaching that all human beings in some way are biologically descended from a first man, Adam. "



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"Oh. Really?"

61 posted on 01/07/2007 4:22:36 PM PST by NicknamedBob (My tuner doesn't have good taste the way it used to!)
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The Official teaching of the Church is that a person can believe in the Theory of Evolution if they so choose but the Church teaches against any sort of theory involving the evolution or change of the soul.


65 posted on 01/07/2007 4:54:34 PM PST by Diva
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I don't know why you bothered to post this.

It's just an opportunity for shallow-thinking Darwinists, reductionists, and materialists yet again to display profound ignorance.

Thought itself is immaterial. Darwinists can neither prove nor disprove its existence let alone explain it. But exist it does.

78 posted on 01/07/2007 6:32:23 PM PST by JCEccles
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It would have been better to title this "Darwinian Evolution incompatible with Reality."


83 posted on 01/07/2007 6:58:57 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God is giving you countless observable clues of His existence!)
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