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Muslims ask to worship at Cordoba [Spain's Cordoba Cathedral........]
Al Jazeera ^

Posted on 12/26/2006 4:30:30 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Muslims ask to worship at Cordoba More than a million of Spain's 44 million inhabitants are Muslims [GALLO/GETTY]

Spanish Muslims have written to the Vatican to demand the right to worship at Cordoba Cathedral.

Spain's Islamic Board wrote to Pope Benedict XVI on Tuesday, calling on him to grant them permission to worship in the cathedral, parts of which were built as a mosque during Spain's period of Islamic rule.

The group said in their letter: "What we wanted was not to take over that holy place, but to create in it, together with you and other faiths, an ecumenical space unique in the world which would have been of great significance in bringing peace to humanity."

They said that senior Spanish Catholic clergy had earlier rejected requests for Muslims to be allowed to prostrate themselves inside the Cathedral.

Mansur Escudero, the board's secretary general, said security guards often stop Muslim worshipers from praying at the old mosque.

He said: "There are reactionary elements within the Catholic Church, and when they hear about the construction of a mosque, or Muslim teachings in state schools, or about veils, they see it as a sign we are growing and they oppose it."

Mansur said Muslims came from around the world to see Cordoba's Cathedral, which is still commonly known as the Cathedral-Mosque.

(Excerpt) Read more at english.aljazeera.net ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aljazeera; cordobacathedral; madrassas; mosque; mosques; pope; spain; veil
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To: Cindy
You're very welcome. :-)

I hope that you and yours had a WONDERFUL Christmas!

61 posted on 12/26/2006 7:49:56 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

We did nopardons.

Christmas blessings and a peaceful New Year to you.


62 posted on 12/26/2006 7:53:17 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Sub-Driver

I lived there. It is a beautiful Cathedral with the remains of Columbus by the entrance. The Muslims can go &%@$#!!@*& in Iran for all I care.


63 posted on 12/26/2006 7:53:47 PM PST by rbosque
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To: Sub-Driver
Spanish Muslims have written to the Vatican to demand the right to worship at Cordoba Cathedral.

Sure, just as soon as Christians are allowed to worship freely, without harassment, in all Muslim countries.

64 posted on 12/26/2006 7:55:20 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: Cindy

Thank you, Cindy, and a happy, healthy, and wonderful New Year
wishes to you and yours!


65 posted on 12/26/2006 7:56:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Sub-Driver
The mosque itself was built on the site of the earlier cathedral of St Vincent which was demolished by Cordoba's Muslim rulers following the Islamic invasion and occupation of parts of southern Spain in the eight century.

So when Muslims were ruling Spain they did not allow Christians to use this place?

66 posted on 12/26/2006 7:59:27 PM PST by A. Pole ("The old Republicans taxed work, savings, and investment 0 percent, and foreign goods at 40 percent")
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To: Digger

"They're here!"

And if they can't convert the infidels and take over
their churches...
they'll wheddle their way into grabbing your church's parking lot
for Fridays.

That way they have more disposable $$$ for The Islamic
(Terrorists) Charity Funds.


http://www.sperryfiles.com/corridor.shtml


The "people of the Book" are Jews and Christians. In other words, come
to your senses, kaffirs, and convert to Islam. After 9/11, Dar al-Hijrah
tried to strike up an interfaith dialogue with area churches.

The neighboring Church of Christ, for one, was willing to participate --
that is, until the mosque wanted its pastor and flock to accept Islam.
The church, along with a neighboring church, nonetheless have agreed
to allow the growing mosque to use their parking lots during Friday
prayer services, which draws some 3,000 Muslims from around the
Washington area. But for their generosity, the 9/11 mosque would be
out of business.


67 posted on 12/26/2006 8:01:25 PM PST by VOA
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To: muawiyah
Same people ~ two religions. This happened to the Serbo-Croations as well.

Serbian Orthodox and Croatian Catholics are Christians. Better analogy is with Kosovo, where Albanian Muslims are eradicating Christian character of the land.

68 posted on 12/26/2006 8:01:59 PM PST by A. Pole ("The old Republicans taxed work, savings, and investment 0 percent, and foreign goods at 40 percent")
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To: Sub-Driver

"What we wanted was not to take over that holy place, but to create in it, together with you and other faiths, an ecumenical space unique in the world which would have been of great significance in bringing peace to humanity."


What about Hagia Sophia??


69 posted on 12/26/2006 8:05:45 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Sub-Driver

btt


70 posted on 12/26/2006 8:09:52 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: A. Pole

"So when Muslims were ruling Spain they did not allow Christians to use this place?"

Of course not.


71 posted on 12/26/2006 8:23:45 PM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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To: VOA

"The 'people of the Book' are Jews and Christians."

Except that the triune God is not recognized as God by Muslims. Rather, they consider Christians pagans for their worship of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. On the top of the Dome of the Rock, it says 'God has no son.'

Furthermore, the Jews are not recognized as a viable religion except as a cultural anecdote. The excavation of the grounds under the Dome of the Rock have yielded tons of material that has been dumped in the trash fill outside Jerusalem.

To say that Muslims consider other religious traditions as related makes about as much sense as the saying that Islam is peace.

Crackerjack site, Sperryfiles.


72 posted on 12/26/2006 8:29:21 PM PST by combat_boots (The MSM: State run Democrat media masquerading as corporations)
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To: Sub-Driver

Tell the Islamic population that when they act like civilized people in Jerusalem in regards to Christians and Jews and the buildings holy to the Christian & Jew, they can expect the same courtesies to be extended to them in Spain.


73 posted on 12/26/2006 8:31:37 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine

"When the Greek Orthodox are free to worship in the Hagia Sophia, THEN the Muzzies can worship in cordoba." I hope this is what the Pope answers.


74 posted on 12/26/2006 8:45:56 PM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: AlaninSA
"...where the koran deposit units are located."

koran deposit units - that's hilarious!!!

75 posted on 12/26/2006 8:51:26 PM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: Sub-Driver

Maybe, once the Saudis allow Jews to worship in Medina... After all, at one point in time, there were lots of Jews in Medina...

After all, it's only fair, and the Jews were there long before the muslims were in Spain.

Mark


76 posted on 12/26/2006 9:01:20 PM PST by MarkL (When Kaylee says "No power in the `verse can stop me," it's cute. When River says it, it's scary!)
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To: IOWAfan

thanks,,,


77 posted on 12/26/2006 9:02:27 PM PST by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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To: Basheva

You want to pray in a church? Fine....turn Christian.

That's the best idea I've ever heard.

Isn't Pope Benedict the one who opposed allowing Turkey into the European Union (because they are predominantly Muslim and thus not very "European")? I know he will do the right thing and send these Cordoba Muslims where they need to go. He won't put up with their nonsense.


78 posted on 12/26/2006 9:07:34 PM PST by Reaganette (There's nothing like an American soldier.)
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To: A. Pole
No, it's not a good analogy at all. Albanians and Serbo-Croations are NOT the of the same ethnic origins.

A majority of Latinos are of exactly the same ethnic origin as North Africans. Never forget, for all practical purposes, what we now identify as Spain, and Morocco, and most of Algeria, were operated as a single country for many hundreds of years.

As Christian (read Cornish and French) knights gradually rolled back the Moslems in the Reconquista, the locals became Christian.

Since the Reconquista took so long, you had essentially the same population change religious affiliations many times, with the local noble classes (of any religion) gradually eradicated and replaced with foreign nobles.

In the end the world's largest industrial class, the Jews, were given a choice of conversion or expulsion. Most stayed.

Spanish history is a tad more complex than that, but the basic picture is that we have "one people", "one authoritarian king", and TWO very different religions (with a small minority of Jews doing all the "high tech" work for at least half a millennium.

Mass emigration to the newly discovered Western Hemisphere began soon enough after the end of the Reconquista that the emigrants reflect the ethnic makeup of Late Medieval Spain, or Morocco, or Algeria, or Mauritania.

79 posted on 12/27/2006 8:30:47 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: combat_boots; A. Pole
Rule in Spain actually meant rule in specific small kingdoms for most of the period of Moslem presence.

Rule changed hands in these kingdoms many times. The Spanish people made provision for conversion/reconversion/reconversion ~ whatever the local king was into, that's what they were into as well.

People who didn't go along with that system tended to relocate insofar as that was possible, to either Christian or Moslem kingdoms as appropriate.

There were also two large invasions by Moslems. One was quite early during a period when Spanish population was rather diminished (by the Dark Ages), and a couple of centuries later by some North African Islamic reformers. The Reconquista began when King San Cho Noe I came from Cornwall to establish three new kingdoms in Galicia.

80 posted on 12/27/2006 8:35:28 AM PST by muawiyah
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