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Disillusioned Western Men Seek to "Thai" the Knot (Western Women Are Wrecks)
SAWF NEWS ^ | 12/23/2006 | Pornchai Kittiwondsakul

Posted on 12/23/2006 5:15:33 PM PST by Dallas59

BANGKOK (AFP) - "I could not find anybody in the States. There was nothing in America for me. That's why I'm here," says the clean-cut 52-year-old bachelor, who bears a passing resemblance to Hollywood actor Michael Douglas.

Sullivan, an emergency nurse from Florida, is one of a growing number of foreign men seeking young and beautiful Thai brides via the Internet.

Speaking at the Bangkok office of Sweet Singles, a Thai bride-by-Internet company, Sullivan says he has decided to "go beyond boundaries" in his search for a wife after a futile quest in the United States.

"American women in my age are, basically, a wreck. They are physically and emotionally beaten up from relationships and life. They are untrusting," says the well-built Sullivan, sporting a pink shirt and white pants.

"I think the feminist movement in America in the 60s really trashed American feminism. American women lack a certain femininity about them that women of other countries have," he laughs.

Sullivan contacted Sweet Singles six months ago and was introduced to Yoshita Tongsalee, an attractive 27-year-old teacher of traditional Thai dancing.

After corresponding with her via e-mails for three weeks, Sullivan decided to meet her and flew to Bangkok in early December.

"Just from e-mails, I knew she was the one. I just knew," says the American, his emerald earring dazzling.

"I find Thai women in general to be less self-centered and more family-centered than I find in western women," he says. The couple plans to marry next year.

John, a 43-year-old Briton who got married to a Thai woman four years ago via an Internet bride agency, also has grievances about western women.

"English women are very demanding and they expect you to be good-looking and have plenty of money and give them lots of attention. They drink a lot and they smoke a lot and they eat a lot," says John, who declined to give his last name.

"I am not very good at getting women anyway. I'm not the best-looking guy in the world. I'm quite short and it's very hard for me to find an English woman who is shorter than me," he says on the telephone from London.

Before marrying his Thai bride, John dated six British women, but his relationships with them were anything but happy.

"I'm just fed up with British women. They are not so loyal," he says.

When he met six Thai ladies in Bangkok via the Internet, including a 32-year-old business woman who later became his wife, John says he was struck by their kindness and family-centered values.

"I think Thai women are more loyal to their husbands. They are not just 'take, take take.' Also they have old-fashioned family values, which we used to have in this country," he says. John and his wife now have two young boys.

John and Marc declined to say how much they paid to get their Thai wives. Sweet Singles says it can charge a foreign man up to 1,700 dollars for a three-year membership to meet Thai ladies.

Some 10,000 foreign men have signed up with Sweet Singles over the last decade, and nearly half of them were previously divorced, says Bee, the company's customer service manager.

Some 80 percent of them get married to Thai women through the agency.

Americans account for 60 percent of the company's male clients, with the rest mostly from Australia, Britain, Germany and Scandinavian countries. Their average age ranges from 55 to 60.

Some 20,000 Thai women have also joined Sweet Singles, with their ages ranging from 20 to 40. The company charges a Thai woman 700 baht (20 dollars) for membership.

Bee, a petite 40-something, says Thai woman often have a favorable impression of foreigners.

"Many Thai girls were disappointed by Thai men who are famous for womanizing, drinking and gambling. Thai woman believe Caucasian men are more responsible and sincere and not playing around with other women," she says.

Thanitchaya Buaban, a striking 26-year-old beauty from Thailand's northern tourist spot of Chiang Mai, says she used to have a Thai boyfriend but he cheated on her many times.

"I was heart-broken. After I joined Sweet Singles, I started meeting foreigners and they were very kind and polite," she says at the firm's office.

Thanitchaya says she now has many American suitors who are trying to win her love with diamond rings and necklaces.

"I'm going to choose the best one," she says with a big smile.

For Sullivan's fiancee Yoshita, her experiences with Thai men were more traumatic.

"I was planning to marry my first Thai boyfriend, but he did not show up on our wedding day. He embarrassed me and my family," Yoshita says. "My second boyfriend cheated on me and impregnated another woman."

But Yoshita, who wears a golden heart necklace, says she is looking forward to living in Florida with the man of her dreams -- even if she still refers to him by his last name.

"I believe Mr Sullivan is a gift from God. He is really a good man and respects me. Every day I pray and thank Buddha for giving me Mr Sullivan," she says.

Sullivan nodded and held her hand.

"I have to step outside my own culture to find someone with whom I am compatible. I am not narrow-minded in that regard," he smiles.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: asianbrides; dating; mailorderbrides; marriage; sexes; single; thailand
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To: GSlob
And I am talking about married female adulterers. I personally know 4 couples where the wife cheated and 2 where the man was the cheater. I am tired of men taking the exclusive rap for bad behavior. You women do it too (and sooner in my experience), whether you can admit it or not.


Woman: How do you write women so well?

Melvin: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

Melvin Udall, novelist, in "As Good As It Gets"

101 posted on 12/23/2006 6:39:21 PM PST by Bronzewound
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To: F.J. Mitchell
Those who have a problem with Western women, are just too wimpy to appreciate a strong woman. The kind of woman who built this Republic, right beside her man.

America was built on credit card debt and bitching?

102 posted on 12/23/2006 6:41:10 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith
http://www.mailorderhusbands.net/order/

I think she's talking about these eligible hotties :o)
103 posted on 12/23/2006 6:41:37 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Bronzewound

Yes, and Melvin Udall was the kind of man more men should aspire to be like. An infantile egomaniac. That'll help. /sarc


104 posted on 12/23/2006 6:41:50 PM PST by cammie
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Boy, are you a loser!

It has been my experience that people who whine about not getting rich, people who whine about not succeeding, people who whine about not meeting "desireable" women, are themselves, the loser.

You just sound pathetic. Pick yourself up and be a man, ferpetessakes!


105 posted on 12/23/2006 6:43:16 PM PST by paulat
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To: Cogadh na Sith

I'm sorry, but you're pretty much a pig, sir.


106 posted on 12/23/2006 6:44:07 PM PST by cammie
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To: paulat
They "love" your wallet, baby, don't think they don't....

Yeah: They're women.
At least maybe they'll make you feel like opening it for them instead of demanding it....

107 posted on 12/23/2006 6:44:34 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: paulat

I'm betting there's some really huge mommy issues going on here.


108 posted on 12/23/2006 6:44:51 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: cammie

There's another article on Free Republic right now entitled "Career Women can't get dates". I think on some primordial level these issues are connected. Let's be honest, your average American divorced guy, about 50, good job but not wealthy enough to attract a 20-something American woman, or even 30, he's been through hell from his ex-wife, women at his own level are looking for someone "better", hey, is he going to turn down a subserviant, beautiful, foreign lady who thinks being VP of a bank or manager of a stereo store is the pinnacle of success? Or the geeky software engineer who has a ketchup stain on his shirt? No American woman would date him, but the foreign girl knows she can support her entire family in a foreign land with a portion of his 80k salary.

A friend of mind is American of Asian descent, in technology field. Smart, but no American would date him because (1) he is 5'5" tall, and (2) he's a diehard republican. He got a mail-order Asian lady from somewhere in China. Do you know what this woman says she loves about America? RUNNING WATER! We have no idea the absolute triumph this is for these girls.

It's too bad, however, for any American woman over 40, you're pretty much destined to loneliness unless you sleep around. Or "marry down." This is just a primitive fact of human nature. Men want young and gorgeous and obedient. Women want strong, tall and reliable of a higher social status. If women are creating their own status, men do not impress them so much.


109 posted on 12/23/2006 6:45:17 PM PST by baa39
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To: jpl

Her exact response to the question was "f**k him".

**
Such a lady, too.


110 posted on 12/23/2006 6:45:32 PM PST by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: Mamzelle

I'll take that action. Mommy issues for $100.


111 posted on 12/23/2006 6:45:35 PM PST by cammie
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To: cammie

FWIW I met my ex at a MENSA meeting...


112 posted on 12/23/2006 6:45:43 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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To: Dallas59
Sounds great to me.

On the other hand, I'd better ask my wife.

113 posted on 12/23/2006 6:46:02 PM PST by Barnacle (Where's the wall?.... Where's the wall??)
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To: Bronzewound
When I was single, I cheated with a few married women.

You can be the guy women cheat on or the guy women cheat with--it's your choice.

114 posted on 12/23/2006 6:46:24 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: Dallas59
He ain't lookin in the right places...

With divorce rates over 50%, maybe he is looking in the right place now.

115 posted on 12/23/2006 6:48:02 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Hildy; cammie; GSlob
So let me see if I've got it. The logic is:

1. This guy is GAY which is why he doesn't want someone like me.

2. Therefore, he goes half way round the world looking for a WOMAN.

Did I get it right?

116 posted on 12/23/2006 6:48:38 PM PST by Bronzewound
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To: cammie; All
I'm sorry, but you're pretty much a pig, sir.

Yes, but that is what it takes to get called 'sir' in this society.

What an excellent object lesson. Thank you.

117 posted on 12/23/2006 6:48:59 PM PST by Cogadh na Sith (There's an open road from the cradle to the tomb.)
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To: Cogadh na Sith

Which begs the question, since you're so sure that women are loathsome: are you the guy your wife is cheating on or the guy some woman is cheating with? Because it seems with you it's one or the other...or, oh, now I get it...your wife is the only American woman of any value. The rest? adulterers, tramps, or pigs. Got it.


118 posted on 12/23/2006 6:49:21 PM PST by cammie
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To: Cogadh na Sith
At least maybe they'll make you feel like opening it for them instead of demanding it....

...so...you're a whore...

At least, now we know your price....

119 posted on 12/23/2006 6:49:30 PM PST by paulat
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To: paulat

Yikes! Where did you get the photo of me???


120 posted on 12/23/2006 6:49:34 PM PST by null and void (Propaganda doesn't have to make sense. Hell, it often works better if it doesn't.)
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