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New York population fails to grow since 2005 (NY to lose 2 electoral votes)
The Citizen ^ | 12/22/06

Posted on 12/22/2006 2:29:22 PM PST by LdSentinal

ALBANY - Thousands of people left New York for other parts of the country last year, making it one of only three states that failed to grow since 2005, according to census estimates released Friday.

New York's estimated population on July 1 was 19.3 million, a drop of 9,538 from a year earlier, the U.S. Census Bureau reported. That drop is minuscule - 0.0005 percent - and based on estimates rather than an actual count. But census demographers say it shows New York's population remained virtually unchanged over the year.

New York and other Northeast states have suffered for years as residents - often young people just out of college - head to the Southwest and other high-growth areas.

The new estimates provide evidence that is still happening: 255,766 more people moved out of New York to other states than into the state between 2005 and 2006. Part of that exodus can be attributed to immigrants who came into the country through New York City and then moved on, often to areas with a lower cost of living.

But Robert Ward of the Business Council of New York State said it can be partly attributed to people heading to Texas and other states that are growing jobs at a faster rate.

“People are moving elsewhere in search of opportunities that they're not finding in New York,” Ward said.

The Census did not provide geographic breakdowns Friday. But population losses and jobs have been particular problems in upstate New York. Gov.-elect Eliot Spitzer has promised to place the upstate economy high on his agenda after he takes office Jan. 1.

The only other states to post population losses were Katrina-ravaged Louisiana, Michigan and Rhode Island. The District of Columbia also lost people. New York's neighbors all recorded growth under 1 percent.

The Census reported that the Northeast grew by 62,000 people.

E.J. McMahon, director of the fiscally conservative Empire Center for New York State Policy, said that other Northeast states did not lose people at the same rate as New York. He said New York and other states that lost people quickly tended to have high living costs (like downstate) and sluggish economies (like upstate).

McMahon said those problems can be addressed through policies to spur economic growth, like lower taxes and fewer mandates in New York.

“You can't say 'We can't because it's cold and old,' because there are other cold and old places that are not shrinking like New York state.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: census; depopulation; immigration; liberal; migration; newyork; population; rustbelt
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To: taxed2death

Im glad that conservative northerners move to the south. Let the libs just tax each other till their broke.LOL


101 posted on 12/23/2006 12:17:20 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: LdSentinal

New York is a wonderful place and they should stay there.

Texas is hot, barren and full of rattlesnakes.


102 posted on 12/23/2006 12:21:02 PM PST by razorback-bert (Posted by Time's Man of the Year)
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To: Caipirabob
The trend is clearly increased population and the insurance isnt going to stop it. - although I share your concerns.

As far as taxes, the tax on my property in Pa is well above what I pay here, although the insurance is less, and the new housing in my area in Pa is coming in at $600,000+, while here it is averaging 250k - 295k for comparable units.

The state, county, and township income taxes are brutal, not to mention the cost of auto ownership is higher, along with mandated inspections that can be very expensive.

There are pros and cons, but the bottom line is that virtually nobody outside of immigrants are moving to Pa, or most of the NE, for that matter.
103 posted on 12/23/2006 12:29:05 PM PST by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: bill1952
Wow, good to know. I remember my mother telling me total taxes in CT for a home ran some $12K a year. Insurane was probably $500-$600 range back then in '98.
104 posted on 12/23/2006 3:02:51 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: VermiciousKnid

Good for you. When you choose where it is that you would like to move please consider right here in Georgia.North of the Mall Of Georgia on interstate 85. Merry Christmas to you and yours.


105 posted on 12/23/2006 3:10:29 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
"Are they going to roll them back, now the values are dropping? "

Nope. Now, the state wants to build toll roads. I see Arizona has improved the highway all the way to the new Hoover Dam bypass bridge. The bridge itself is coming along nicely. Too bad the CaMex Hwy will run into a bottleneck when it gets to Boulder City. The Feds have not funded a BC bypass road.

I didn't mention one special tax Boulder City has. A strictly autonomous Boulder City Library Distrct property tax. We voted for it and its worth it.

yitbos

106 posted on 12/23/2006 3:14:03 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

I thought they were going to bypass Boulder. What happened. It's going to be bumper to bumper from Boulder to Henderson.


107 posted on 12/23/2006 7:57:40 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: imahawk

Thank you so much, imahawk!

We will consider Georgia, though I'm not sure I could get used to 80 degree weather at Christmastime.

Best regards for a very Merry Christmas,


108 posted on 12/23/2006 8:30:36 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: LdSentinal

**(NY to lose 2 electoral votes) **

Yes, the dimocrats will be losing!


109 posted on 12/23/2006 8:35:01 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: mtbopfuyn

** Texas being the fastest growing state.**

Just elect Republicans!!!


110 posted on 12/23/2006 8:36:53 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: GinaLolaB

I'll pray for all those babies.

Abortion will make America crumble from within if it is not stopped.


111 posted on 12/23/2006 8:37:49 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
"It's going to be bumper to bumper from Boulder to Henderson."

Its going to be bumper to bumper from Kingman to Henderson Railroad Pass going north and from the bridge to Las Vegas going south.

All that trafic now bypassing the dam through Laughlin will travel your fine Arizona four-lane to the bridge and run into the Boulder City bottleneck. Harry the Reedyone, as minority leader of The Senate, put no bucks in the transportation bill for a BC by-pass. Arizona got boocoo pennnies for their hwy. There will be a nice left turn at the only stoplight in town after a ponderous five mile twisting climb. How much has truck traffic grown in the last 5 years? We don't know, here, because we haven't seen any of it.

Best guess is a bypass will be in place by 2020.

I see they want to build about 60,000 houses just over the bridge on your side in Arizona because you have such a nice hwy and a new bridge. They figger there is water pretty close in Lake Mead. Oops, the lake is half full. This little town of 15,000 has to fork over $15 million to extend our lake straw to a level that won't be dry in 5 years.

yitbos

112 posted on 12/23/2006 11:54:45 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman
Those houses they want to build on our side of the river are mostly being pushed by Harry Reid's buddy and appears to be a ploy to get some of Arizona's water allotment for a development Harry wants to build in Searchlight.

If this continues they need to build another highway from Searchlight to Vegas coming in on the West side of town instead of through Henderson. Our paper said a few months ago it will be houses from Wickenberg to Las Vegas in not too many years. I have no clue where the water is going to come from. Colorado and Utah are growing and demanding to keep more of their allotments that have been allowed to flow down to California.

113 posted on 12/24/2006 10:42:00 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: bruinbirdman

BTW, since truck traffic has been required to bypass the dam, fatal trucking accidents on the bypass through Bullhead/Laughlin have gone up substantially.


114 posted on 12/24/2006 10:43:41 AM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: VermiciousKnid

Merry Christmas to you and yours.Psst.psst, we have air conditioning and you will get used to it.The money you save on taxes can cool your house at 40 degrees year round and still have money left over.LOL


115 posted on 12/24/2006 8:41:51 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: imahawk

I live in New York (DON'T SHOOT! I'M CONSERVATIVE), and by personal experience I say we could've gotten a higher census count if we counted the immigrant population. With all the immigrants, I'd think we're more overpopulated than China...


116 posted on 12/25/2006 10:32:32 PM PST by Republiteen (New York is great, except for the liberal part...)
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