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Rabbi claims Holocaust dead ‘deserved it’
Sunday Times ^ | 12/17/06 | Maurice Chittenden

Posted on 12/18/2006 6:21:45 PM PST by TFFKAMM

A BRITISH rabbi who angered fellow Jews by speaking at a “Holocaust denial” conference in Iran now says millions did die in gas chambers but may have deserved it.

Ahron Cohen, an Orthodox Jew from Greater Manchester and a leading member of the anti-Zionist Neturei Karta movement, sparked new controversy on his return from Tehran by suggesting that God would have saved the victims of the Nazis if they had deserved to live.

Cohen, whose house in Salford was pelted with 1,000 eggs last year because of his extremist views, told The Sunday Times: “There is no question that there was a Holocaust and gas chambers. There are too many eyewitnesses.

“However, our approach is that when one suffers, the one who perpetrates the suffering is obviously guilty but he will never succeed if the victim did not deserve it in one way or another.

“We have to look within to improve and try to better ourselves and remove those characteristics or actions that may have been the cause of the success of the Holocaust.”

Cohen’s trip to Tehran — along with four American rabbis from the same sect — was paid for by the Iranian foreign ministry, which organised the conference entitled The Holocaust: A Global Vision. They were warmly greeted by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, and had two meetings with him.

Cohen ended his speech to the conference with a prayer “that the underlying cause of strife and bloodshed in the Middle East, namely the state known as Israel, be totally and peacefully dissolved”.

The rabbi claimed “learned gentlemen from both sides of the fence” were at the latest conference. They included David Duke, former “imperial wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan.

Cohen said on his return: “President Ahmadinejad is not a man of war. He is a man of peace. I have received criticism for meeting him and attending the conference, but Jewish people are adopting an attitude of criticism from an emotional point of view, not a logical or sensible one.

“We know there was a Holocaust. We lived through it. I had relatives who died in it . . . But in no way must the Holocaust be used to further the aims of the Zionist concept.”

Rabbi Yehuda Brodie, registrar of the Jewish Ecclesiastical Court for Greater Manchester, said: “Rabbi Cohen has for a long time been ostracised by the vast majority of Jews for associating with and thus giving support and legitimacy to the enemies of Israel and the Jewish nation.

“He represents an insignificant minority. His involvement is a stab in the heart of the Jewish community and of all decent law-abiding people.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; holocaust; iran; israel; jews; judaism; moonbat; netureikarta; selfhatingjew; traitorjew
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To: jackibutterfly

The real purpose of the denial meeting was to rub salt in the wounds of Israel. By denying the Holocaust, or bringing in super kapos aka the good Rabbi, like the Nazis did in marching in Skokie, they seek to inflame and antagonize Jews everywhere. These are bullies of the first order. But there is hope. People are raising their voices in Iran.

My question is, what will happen to the thousands who jeered that little Iranian rat president when he spoke at the Iranian University? Are they disappearing?


61 posted on 12/18/2006 9:35:58 PM PST by at bay ("We actually did an evil....." Eric Schmidt, CEO Google)
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To: TFFKAMM

Wow, simply wow.


62 posted on 12/18/2006 10:27:26 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Avenge Curt Weldon!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

This "Rabbi" will forever be taken for the fool he is now.


63 posted on 12/18/2006 10:30:17 PM PST by Nachum
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To: TFFKAMM

Does Neturei Karta fathom when their 'leaders' make these insane statements neo-Nazis & Klan vermin love it?


64 posted on 12/18/2006 10:44:03 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: annelizly
Are you so sure it was about money? Plenty of people stayed in NOLA and the surrounding areas even though they were warned that the storm was coming. I wouldn't say that they stayed behind because of greed.

There were probably several reasons they (European Jews) stayed behind. Elderly family members unable to travel. Do you just leave grandma behind to die? Not an easy decision. What about the pregnant mothers getting ready to deliver? Leave them behind? I think most of all, the people probably couldn't comprehend that level of barbarity and destruction until it was too late for them to escape.

65 posted on 12/18/2006 10:52:19 PM PST by TNdandelion
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To: TFFKAMM

There are Jews that are Jews because their hearts are like unto God's heart and they love Him, and there are Jews that say they are Jews but are of the synagogue of Satan.

The more "religious" and the less "relationship" type of Jews are the latter.


66 posted on 12/19/2006 4:11:29 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Michael.SF.
Those voter's as well, though immediate death may not be the result, are like the frog in the soon to be boiled water.

As a firm believer that the only difference between a liberal and a fascist is just the level of power they possess; I am sure that death will be the inevitable result. The immediacy being regulated by our willingness to trade freedom for "security" and a "free" ride.

67 posted on 12/19/2006 4:23:38 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Alouette
If this Cohen individual does indeed acknowledge that the Holocaust happened, why is he lending support to those who deny that it happened?
68 posted on 12/19/2006 4:42:46 AM PST by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: wideawake

If I told you what I really this of this guy, I would get ZOTTED from Free Republic.

Let me just say that his mother and his father were both married to other people at the time he was conceived.


69 posted on 12/19/2006 4:46:48 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 135-139)
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To: TFFKAMM

"The rabbi claimed “learned gentlemen from both sides of the fence” were at the latest conference. They included David Duke, former “imperial wizard” of the Ku Klux Klan."

O Kaaaayyy - so why is this 'rabbi' calling a klansman a "learned gentlemen"? David Duke must have made quite a contribution to the Rabid Rabbi's synagogue for him to have called Duke either "learned" or "a gentleman".


70 posted on 12/19/2006 4:58:22 AM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principles, - -)
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To: Calpernia
870 infants born in the Ravensbrück concentration camp between 1943 and 1945--to Jewish and Gypsy women--were murdered shortly after birth.

How could innocent babies "deserve it"?

71 posted on 12/19/2006 5:52:25 AM PST by TaxRelief (Wal-Mart: Keeping my family on-budget since 1993.)
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To: TaxRelief

On September 16, 1936, the New York Times printed Julius Streicher's anti semitic announcement subheadlined:

"The Way to Solve Problem Is to Exterminate Them"

"The Nuremberg high-priest of anti-Semitism....announced that in the last analysis, extermination is the only real solution to the Jewish problem. Mr. Streicher made it clear in his address that he was not discussing the question in regard to Germany alone...but of a world problem. He declared there were some who believed the Jewish question could be solved 'without blood', but...they were seriously mistaken...if a final solution was to be reached 'one must go to the bloody path'. Such measures would be justified, Mr. Streicher declared, 'because the Jews always attained their ends through wholesale murder and have been responsible for wars and massacres. To secure the safety of the whole world, they must be exterminated,' he said.

This is the result of Nazism. Never forget.

As for my comment in post 6, On September 24, 1935, The New York Times headlined, "Nazis Plan to Buy Out All Jewish Firms; Stress Bargains Resulting from the Boycott"

The plan called for the purchase of Jewish firms by a central corporation, and their redistribution among ambitious Aryan businessmen. Businesses and Jewish assets could be obtained cheap.

The Nazis commanded the Jews to register wealth and property.

These properties and assets were seized as part of a drive to liquidate Jewish assets. Nazis began visiting Jewish homes and invalidating their passports.

Jewish identities were also seized. They were identified by IBM's Dehomag identification system. Jews that were exterminated had their assets and identities available to Aryanians. I'm saying in post 6 that I doubt the rabbi was a true Jew and more likely was an Aryanian that had the identity and assets obtained either personally or he is one of the Lebensborn Program children. Many were given these identities to continue the socialistic cause from within. ie., enemy within.


72 posted on 12/19/2006 6:37:41 AM PST by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Alouette; wideawake; American in Israel; dennisw; goldstategop; Salem; Nachum
"Rabbi claims Holocaust dead ‘deserved it’

The words I have for this Rabbi-in-name-only cannot be posted on to FR!!! It is sick and wicked for anyone to say that those murdered in the Shoah deserved it, but for one that claims he's a rabbi to say such a thing......................

I may be a Virginia Catholic that loves country ham, crab cakes, and shimp and grits, but I'm a heck of a lot more Jewish that this so-called "rabbi" and his cohorts!!!! May the Almighty send his Angel down from Heaven to paint this "rabbi's" tongue black!
73 posted on 12/19/2006 9:07:34 AM PST by Convert from ECUSA (Memo to Olmerde: "GET THE HELL OUT OF BIBI's HOUSE!")
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