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"...What few studies there are suggest that ADD often still causes problems after kids grow up. For 13 years, Fischer and her colleague Dr. Russell A. Barkley tracked 147 children who had been diagnosed with ADD by age 7. They compared them with a set of kids from the same neighborhoods without ADD.

"In 2005, they reported that the young adults with a childhood ADD diagnosis were more likely to have dropped out of high school and to have been fired from jobs. They were more likely to have had sex earlier and became parents at a younger age than their non-ADD peers. They had higher credit card debt and fewer savings, and were far less likely to attend college.

"Young adults with ADD also appear to have more motor vehicle collisions and traffic citations and are more likely to experiment with illegal drugs. But the data suggest that ADD sufferers who took prescribed medication were less likely than those who did not to use illegal drugs.

This article is not of general interest, but for those dealing with the problem it is a good review of the disputes. There is a lack of evidence clearly documenting the need to continue Ritalin into adulthood.

1 posted on 12/18/2006 6:44:20 AM PST by shrinkermd
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Newly minted grown-ups are carrying out a massive natural experiment by choosing to do without the drugs that profoundly affected their experience of childhood.

Funny, seems to me the pyschobablists who are drugging a generation of children are the ones doing the experimenting on children.

2 posted on 12/18/2006 6:48:20 AM PST by Always Right
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My stepmother was just diagnosed with ADD (at the age of 58) and I think I liked her better before she went on meds for it.

Now she just seems high all the time. It's very hard work being around her. She talks a mile a minute.

But she's happier, so I bite my tongue.


3 posted on 12/18/2006 6:49:59 AM PST by elc (Slingin' away)
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Newly minted grown-ups are carrying out a massive natural experiment by choosing to do without the drugs that profoundly affected their experience of childhood.

"Massive natural experiment"?

What an absolutely idiotic choice of words.

4 posted on 12/18/2006 6:51:19 AM PST by Psycho_Bunny
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There's no such thing as ADD!!! It's called BAD PARENTING!!If you're an adult and have been diagnosed with ADD, it's called BEING SUCKERED!!


5 posted on 12/18/2006 6:53:47 AM PST by albie
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My cousin has a 7 y/o daughter and a 3 y/o son. He and his wife claim they are both ADD and I'll admit that they are both livewires. I think it's the parenting, though, because he and his wife will let the kids run wild until they have gotten on everybody's last nerve. Then they will pounce on the kids. It must be very confusing for them.

This past week we all got together and they had the daughter on meds. It was terrible. All of her personality was gone and she was just like a little robot. The medication is compensating for bad parenting.
6 posted on 12/18/2006 6:54:26 AM PST by T.Smith
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They drugged me with Ritalin when I was a kid. It's bad stuff. You are not the same person when you are under its influence and, if under it's influence for long enough, you're not the same person once you get off of it as well.

Guidance counselors and psychiatrists who put kids, especially boys, on this stuff need to be fired and/or have their credentials and certifications revoked.
8 posted on 12/18/2006 6:55:50 AM PST by JamesP81 (If you have to ask permission from Uncle Sam, then it's not a right)
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When I cant stop fiddlin', I just take my ritalin, I'm Poppin' and sailin' man.

Bart Simpson

9 posted on 12/18/2006 6:58:37 AM PST by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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children and their parents expected ADD medication to help them succeed in school at a time when sitting still and compliance with rules was highly valued. But in the adult world, young people with ADD have far wider choices, and they should make them with an awareness of their strengths and their weaknesses, Diller says — not what others expect of them. Using medication "to take octagonal kids and fit them into square holes" may be acceptable in grade school, he says.

Here's the red meat about ADD - some kids need drugs to fit them into that monster called school. When the same kids are allowed to learn in a manner better fitting their personalities and drives, there is no need for drugs.

Any parent of such a kid needs to homeschool or use a tutoring service that works with high energy kids. In fact, I consider it bordering on child abuse to drug a child into submission.

10 posted on 12/18/2006 7:00:15 AM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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It won't be long before the meds-bashers come along. I'd bet those people don't even have any kids, and if they do, have not faced one with real ADHD. My daughter probably wouldn't have survived without ADHD meds.


11 posted on 12/18/2006 7:00:18 AM PST by Fierce Allegiance (Iron my shirts, woman!)
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"...What few studies there are suggest that ADD often still causes problems after kids grow up. For 13 years, Fischer and her colleague Dr. Russell A. Barkley tracked 147 children who had been diagnosed with ADD by age 7. They compared them with a set of kids from the same neighborhoods without ADD.

Looks to me like diagnosing kids as ADD stigmatize them and makes certain that they have problems later on in life.

14 posted on 12/18/2006 7:03:35 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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Perhaps the dearth of sleep experienced by these overdiagnosed and overmedicated (like my son)children could account for later problems?
Ritalin is easy for the teacher, seductive for the parent, disaster for the child.


15 posted on 12/18/2006 7:04:40 AM PST by steve8714 (Isn't Israel a sovereign nation?)
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"This article is not of general interest, but for those dealing with the problem it is a good review of the disputes. There is a lack of evidence clearly documenting the need to continue Ritalin into adulthood."



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18 posted on 12/18/2006 7:09:50 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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ADD


24 posted on 12/18/2006 7:17:02 AM PST by jdm
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I suspect that had I grown up in this day and age, they would have pegged me a ADD. I was just a normal, healthy boy.

The feminist movement has succeeded in branding normal boy behavior as ADD or anti-social and suppressed it with drugs. As a result, they are not able to learn to control and use their God-given gifts and abilities.

I would like to see the percentages of Boys to Girls being "diagnosed" as ADD.

25 posted on 12/18/2006 7:19:58 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Heaven is home...I am just TDY here!)
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My parents wouldn't allow me to be meidcated. I had to learn how to cope on my own. Considering I have an Advanced Degree and I am in a job I love, I think I've done ok for myself. On a personal note, I've been happily married to a wonderful man for over 11 years now.


26 posted on 12/18/2006 7:20:52 AM PST by MissEdie (Liberalscostlives)
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My dad's narrow 1950's style belt cured my ADD, or taught me how important it was to stop being a knuckleheaded idiot.

My mom's China-berry Tree Switch and bolo paddle taught me that ADD was just my imagination.

Principal John Taylor Leath's, 54 inch, 1950's belt taught me that education is Autocratic and Authoritarian. Terror and fear will cure many disorders.

37 posted on 12/18/2006 7:40:19 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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ping


43 posted on 12/18/2006 7:46:58 AM PST by bmwcyle (McCain nomination assures a Hillary win)
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Click the pic to see how to handle rowdy kids
76 posted on 12/18/2006 8:12:45 AM PST by DocRock
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Is it any wonder that as discipline goes out the window when it comes to American parenting, ADD symptoms are more prevalent among the children. It is hard to see how putting the kid on drugs is going to help them in their mental stability as drugs can have sideeffects and withdrawal effects.


88 posted on 12/18/2006 8:19:25 AM PST by GregH
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But the data suggest that ADD sufferers who took prescribed medication were less likely than those who did not to use illegal drugs.
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The sad thing about this 'overmedication' hype is that these meds often improve the standards of living and break the compulusions and addcitions of these kids and adults.


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