Posted on 12/17/2006 6:23:57 AM PST by surfer
The election was very dirty and the undersheriff was a lot to blame for it being that way... the same is true for the county commissioner's race the incumbent sheriff pulled out of, leaving only one leftist candidate on the ballot...
I am very suspicious of the whole dynamic involved and the local nepotism of it.
A quick looksee, nope don't see a thing! And two people are dead. A family had to hire a private helicopter to find the car which was in plain view.
It's not just Oregon. It seems that those responsible for searching are totally unqualified.
Bureaucracies are populated with cronies, incompetent, and diversity hires that have NOTHING to do with competence.
In a near complete white-out situation.
That is one of the most confusing scenarios you will ever find yourself in.
ust two weeks later a car goes off the road on a major highway. Someone actually calls in the accident, nearly, but not quite, pinpointing the location of the auto.
Well he is dead...doesn't seem to do much good to condem a man that is already dead...
His kids will miss him on th 25th as well as every other day...meanwhile the others that made mistakes will be enjoying a nice holiday with their live family members...yeah they will feel guilty for a while but they will get over it and continue on with their lives.
Perfect. This quote is needed on another thread where several chair-bound, latte sipping critics are discussing the lost Mt. Hood climbers.
And as was discussed on another thread most online mapping searches send you on the wrong route when asking for directions, Grants Pass to Gold Beach. I did a direction search on MSN Maps, Mapquest, Yahoo Maps, and Google Earch; and with the exception of Yahoo they all gave directions over the unpassable route the Kim's attempted.
Wonder if the tech savy Mr Kim used an internet mapping service?
Agree completely. Notice how Monday Morning QB's never have any incompletions or fumbles??
The number one mistake was by Mr Kim choosing the worst road in Oregon to take a shortcut.
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My guess is that after accidentally getting onto the logging road, Mr. Kim quietly panicked, and really did not know what to do, other than simply plowing forward and trying to follow his map, which by this point was no longer valid to his situation, unbeknownst to him. It could happen to anyone, particularly those who are unfamiliar with local roads such as this logging road.
Maps like he was probably following are notoriously misleading too when it comes to secondary roads, as I've personally discovered during my own wilderness trips. So I can completely sympathize with the Kims' plight.
With that said, it looks to me that there was plenty of incompetence up and down the local authorities command chain, beginning with "car sick" Rubrecht and her indifferent football fan boss, who together bear a large portion of the blame for their poor rescue efforts.
You are right. I apologize. My concern was blaming and second guessing the authorities in a hysterical way.
Good point. Those things will often give you routes that look good on paper , but fall far short in practical application.
That pretty much says it all...it's a shame a man paid with his life for Rubrecht's total incompetence.
It may have been the Kim's fault for getting lost in the first place, but they did just about everything else right once they realized their circumstances. It appears that those that survived are very lucky that average citizens took an interest in their plight.
And I forgto to add that BLM's failure to secure the chain/gate across the logging road was simply criminal...
That's exactly right! I once used some Mapquest directions to find a government office in Baltimore, and they ultimately took me to a street and bridge that no longer existed.
Why would he go from Grants Pass to Gold Beach if he was coming from Portland? Run Portland to Gold Beach and that road doesn't come into play.
The way I heard it he missed the Roseburg cutoff and then found that road on a map and mistakenly thought it was passable. Should have stopped at a gas station and asked, they would have warned him about that nightmare road.
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The roads were closed, they had steel gates across them. It was reported that unknown persons had cut the chains and locks and had opened the gates. However, no one checked to see that the gates remained closed.
Exactly. From the story:
Rubrecht, a 32-year-old former police dispatcher, was named Josephine County's search coordinator in 2001 with no prior experience in the field.
That sounds like the Wayne County, Michigan (Detroit area) "emergency response" system. Tens of millions of dollars of federal post-911 gear is sitting in trailers hidden behind county buildings at Metro Airport. Not one radio, gas mask, or IR sensor has made it into the hands of first responders after five years.
However, it was learned that all of the $15K generator sets were installed at the homes of (RAT) county commisioners. But that was treated as "business as usual" because the commisioners said they deserverd the generator sets because they were so important that they should not have to worry about power being interrupted to their homes.
The gate was open, BLM officials would later acknowledge, because the bureau had failed to follow normal procedure and close it for the winter.
I too had initially heard that someone had cut the chain and left the gate open, but apparently BLM finally fessed up here to not doing its job. Typical government apathy...
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