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Romney on Iraq Study Group, gay-rights, and abortion: Interview with K Lo of NRO
National Review Online ^ | 12/14/06 | Mitt Romney and Kathryn Lopez

Posted on 12/16/2006 8:31:31 PM PST by Jeff Fuller

This wonderful interview Romney had with K Lo of NRO adresses many of the "hot-button" issues of our day and of Romney's past. The whole interview is worth reading, but I thougth I'd highlight the discussions of Iraq, gay rights, and abortion. He also gives an impressive reading list (aides say he's a voracious reader) and he ends with a quippy potential exposee/You-tube scandal that could end his chances.

Lopez: What did you make of the Iraq Study Group report that was released last week?

Gov. Romney: The members of the Iraq Study Group deserve credit for their hard work. But their recommendations read like the product of a flawed process — one more focused on reaching consensus for the sake of reaching consensus. There were a few recommendations that I found especially striking: Suggesting that somehow the Israel-Palestine conflict is a root of sectarian and insurgent violence in Iraq is just wrong. Sunnis are killing Shia and vice versa. Pressuring Israel won’t change that.

Proposing that we negotiate with terrorist regimes like Syria and Iran — without a rigorous analysis of how our incentives could ever be aligned — is just counter-productive. I have no quarrel with talking, especially if it yields valuable intelligence and insight about an adversary. But that’s a far cry from actually negotiating with Iran, which sponsors Hezbollah, has nuclear ambitions, and has been clear in its intention to wipe our ally Israel off the map. And Syria is systematically undermining the sovereignty of Lebanon and funding and arming terrorists. Any suggestion that we might trade something for their help or forbearance is out of the question. When considering a negotiation, one must ask what kind of leverage we have, and recognize that there are situations where we have more to lose than gain by negotiating.

Finally, inferring that our troops may be withdrawn from combat positions before Iraq is secure runs counter to my view and to the views I have heard from some of America’s most accomplished military leaders. I am not suggesting that there are simple solutions for Iraq. But it is clear to me that some of these recommendations will not meet our objectives in Iraq, or in the broader long war America is fighting today.

Now onto the Gay-Rights issues:

Lopez: As you know, in recent days the Boston Globe and the New York Times, as well as the Boston newspaper, Bay Windows, have run pieces about your 1994 race against Ted Kennedy and your run for governor that appear to be in conflict with your current position against gay marriage. Are they?

Gov. Romney: These old interviews and stories have frequently been circulated by my opponents ever since I took a stand against the Massachusetts supreme-court ruling on same-sex marriage. This being the political season, it is not surprising this old news has appeared again. But I have made clear since 2003, when the supreme court of Massachusetts redefined marriage by fiat, that my unwavering advocacy for traditional marriage stands side by side with a tolerance and respect for all Americans.

Like the vast majority of Americans, I’ve opposed same-sex marriage, but I’ve also opposed unjust discrimination against anyone, for racial or religious reasons, or for sexual preference. Americans are a tolerant, generous, and kind people. We all oppose bigotry and disparagement. But the debate over same-sex marriage is not a debate over tolerance. It is a debate about the purpose of the institution of marriage and it is a debate about activist judges who make up the law rather than interpret the law.

I agree with 3,000 years of recorded history. I believe marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman and I have been rock solid in my support of traditional marriage. Marriage is first and foremost about nurturing and developing children. It’s unfortunate that those who choose to defend the institution of marriage are often demonized.

Lopez: And what about the 1994 letter to the Log Cabin Republicans where you indicated you would support the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) and seemed open to changing the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy in the military? Are those your positions today?

Gov. Romney: No. I don’t see the need for new or special legislation. My experience over the past several years as governor has convinced me that ENDA would be an overly broad law that would open a litigation floodgate and unfairly penalize employers at the hands of activist judges.

As for military policy and the “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, I trust the counsel of those in uniform who have set these policies over a dozen years ago. I agree with President Bush’s decision to maintain this policy and I would do the same.

Lopez: Congressman Harold Ford and 33 other Democrat House members voted for a federal marriage amendment this year; you don’t hear a whole lot of coverage of facts like that — or criticisms that they might be as mean and hateful as Republicans who vote similarly are regularly characterized. Does the mainstream media have double standards for Republicans?

Gov. Romney: Well, they do tend to ignore a lot of facts on this issue. How many people have heard that marriage amendments or referendums this year passed by large margins including by 84 percent in Tennessee; 84 percent in South Carolina, 58 percent in Virginia, and by 59 percent in Wisconsin? In 2004 similar measures passed by wide margins in 13 states. California passed a referendum by 61 percent opposing same-sex marriage in 2000. This is a mainstream issue on which most Americans are fairly united but coverage often doesn’t reflect that.

And then onto abortion:

Lopez: In a 1994 debate with Senator Kennedy, you said “I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my Mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a U.S. Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it.” Further confusing matters, the Boston Globe reported in 1994 that “as a Mormon lay leader [you] counseled Mormon women not to have abortions except in cases of rape, incest, or where the mother’s life was at risk.” Governor: What is your position on abortion today? On Roe? How do you account for what is obviously a change — certainly publicly — on the issue?

Gov. Romney: My position has changed and I have acknowledged that. How that came about is that several years ago, in the course of the stem-cell-research debate I met with a pair of experts from Harvard. At one point the experts pointed out that embryonic-stem-cell research should not be a moral issue because the embryos were destroyed at 14 days. After the meeting I looked over at Beth Myers, my chief of staff, and we both had exactly the same reaction — it just hit us hard just how much the sanctity of life had been cheapened by virtue of the Roe v. Wade mentality. And from that point forward, I said to the people of Massachusetts, “I will continue to honor what I pledged to you, but I prefer to call myself pro-life.” The state of Massachusetts is a pro-choice state and when I campaigned for governor I said that I would not change the law on abortion. But I do believe that the one-size-fits-all, abortion-on-demand-for-all-nine-months decision in Roe v. Wade does not serve the country well and is another example of judges making the law instead of interpreting the Constitution.

What I would like to see is the Court return the issue to the people to decide. The Republican party is and should remain the pro-life party and work to change hearts and minds and create a culture of life where every child is welcomed and protected by law and the weakest among us are protected. I understand there are people of good faith on both sides of the issue. They should be able to make and advance their case in democratic forums with civility, mutual respect, and confidence that our democratic process is the best place to handle these issues.

And yes, as a private citizen I have counseled women not to have abortions.

Lopez: Does that mean you were “faking it” — as one former adviser has suggested — as a pro-choicer in your previous political campaigns? Why should anyone believe you’re really pro-life now?

Gov. Romney: I believe people will see that as governor, when I had to examine and grapple with this difficult issue, I came down on the side of life. I know in the four years I have served as governor I have learned and grown from the exposure to the thousands of good-hearted people who are working to change the culture in our country. I’m committed to promoting the culture of life. Like Ronald Reagan, and Henry Hyde, and others who became pro-life, I had this issue wrong in the past.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abortion; flipflop; homosexual; homosexualagenda; iraq; romney; romneytherino; windsurfer; wot
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To: Cymbaline
I hope the interviewer was joking, because that has got to be one of the stupidest interview questions I've ever read.

It was a joke. K-Lo is openly pro-Romney, and Romney knows it. They were just having fun.

81 posted on 12/17/2006 12:17:38 AM PST by TChad
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To: Jeff Fuller

Go Romney! The extremist far right kooks wont be happy until they tear you down by aligning themselves with liberal media. Most Republicans understand that you are a pragmatic conservative and have the skills to do the job and an asset to the party.


82 posted on 12/17/2006 2:59:37 AM PST by GregH
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To: onyx
I live in Alabama and have many Southern Baptist friends. Most of them have told me that they will never vote for a Mormon for President. They think that it is a cult and not a Christian religion. I do not believe that Romney can win the south.
83 posted on 12/17/2006 3:23:49 AM PST by Timbo64
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To: Kuksool
With the WOT, the public demands someone with proven results of crisis handling.

Give me someone with a proven track record of military victories if that is the case.

Wars are not won in a court room by lawyers with fancy Madison Avenue designer labels.

84 posted on 12/17/2006 3:34:03 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: Jeff Fuller

The more I read about Romney so far, the more I like him.


85 posted on 12/17/2006 4:38:20 AM PST by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: onyx

My issues are national security, WOT and in Iraq, Iran and federal judges

Moral issues are just as high on my list.


86 posted on 12/17/2006 4:53:22 AM PST by garylmoore (Faith is the assurance of things unseen.)
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To: Amelia
The more I read about Romney so far, the more I like him.

Ditto.

87 posted on 12/17/2006 5:35:16 AM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: onyx; All

I feel that gay marriage and abortion should be left up to the states.. My issues is the WOT and taxes.... I also like to see Romney view on space exploration...


88 posted on 12/17/2006 6:14:08 AM PST by KevinDavis (Nancy you ignorant Slut!!!!!)
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To: Torie

I agree with that. No there there. Credit to whoever came up with that phrase.


89 posted on 12/17/2006 6:52:49 AM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Jeff Fuller

I'm less impressed than I was a week ago, because of his positions on socially conservative issues.

Voters rejected antigay, antiabortion Schiavo candidates in November, because they don't believe such issues affect their quality of lives. Yet Romney is ramping up to appeal (and pander) to so-cons.

Just what we need, another man paying lip service to the same tired issues to get the same tired votes.


90 posted on 12/17/2006 7:10:44 AM PST by unsycophant
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To: EternalVigilance

"for-all-nine-months decision in Roe v. Wade"

He has not read the decision, I see.


91 posted on 12/17/2006 8:52:39 AM PST by DBrow
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To: TChad

Good, I didn't read the whole thing. (Taking cues from Lazamataz!) :-)


92 posted on 12/17/2006 8:56:23 AM PST by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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To: Jeff Fuller
unwavering advocacy for traditional marriage stands side by side with a tolerance and respect for all Americans

Sounds like he's for traditional marriage and gay rights too, maybe not marriage for gays but certainly the civil equivalent. His paragraphs are non-answers.

93 posted on 12/17/2006 8:57:43 AM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

What a surprise, eh?


94 posted on 12/17/2006 8:59:25 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Circumstances are the fire by which the mettle of men is tried.)
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To: Timbo64
I do not believe that Romney can win the south.

Such has been the GOP lock on the South, it would take more than a candidate with an incorrect religion for an otherwise credible GOP candidate to lose. AL ain't voting for Hiliary or Obama. The states in play are in the North (eg WI, MI, OH, IA, NH, MN). Thus the opinions of Southern Evangelicals matters no more than my CA opinion. Our states are not in play.

95 posted on 12/17/2006 9:10:59 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: Kuksool
"I bet we'll have FR trolls claiming that Mitt has a secret harem of young blondes in a small Utah town."


Any links to stuff like that? Or are you just projecting?

BTW, Duncan Hunter has only been married once. So that line is wrong too.
96 posted on 12/17/2006 9:18:04 AM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: SDGOP

I was hoping KLO would ask about him putting down Reagan during one of his debates with Kennedy.

No suprise there, she didn't.


97 posted on 12/17/2006 9:21:47 AM PST by JRochelle (Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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To: JRochelle

Of course not, KLO is romney's biggest backer. She's shameless.


98 posted on 12/17/2006 9:50:02 AM PST by SDGOP
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To: Timbo64

I am an evangelical. I will favor a pro-life Mormon over a pro-abortion Southern Baptist. That said if someone wants to oppose Mitt, then they should attack his unremarkable record as MA Governor instead of making the LDS church the issue.


99 posted on 12/17/2006 11:12:12 AM PST by Kuksool (I learned more about political science on FR than in college)
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To: Jeff Fuller

Thanks for the ping.


100 posted on 12/17/2006 12:33:32 PM PST by Ms. AntiFeminazi (Romo homey here)
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