Posted on 12/16/2006 8:31:31 PM PST by Jeff Fuller
First ... his "unwavering" has wavered and it has been shown time and again including this article..... Second, his "traditional marriage" can not straddle the fence with "tolerance and respect" for all the weirdos out there. Lukewarm has rightfully been shown to be worthy of spitting out. Character does matter to some...
The Bible does not say, "Hate the sin, love the sinner." It says, "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he" (Prov. 23:7). And that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5)
Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9)
Romans 12:9 NIV .. "Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good."
No problem!
Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9)
So you only love those who live sinless lives?
Incredible.
"Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.
Luke 6:42
How telling is that? They'd let a marxist like Hillary win if it were between her and Romney?
I think abortion should be left to the states, but I think marriage should be federally mandated: one man and one woman.
That's exactly Romney's stance. It's not hypocritical either (on first blush many people think that). Romney layed out the reasoning very well on his Charlie Rose interview (search for it at Google Videos). Essentially, marriage is a status that allows for various entitlements and familial units that, necessarily, would have to be recognized by other states.
That's right and that is my very reason. People move from state to state.
I think abortion has always been contraversial. I don't know why it's hard to believe that Romney's heart has changed. I'm sure it happens to people everyday.
Where the heck did you get that from? I don't jerks that can't call evil evil though.
You quote the Biblical verse below.. thank you for doing so...
""Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye. Luke 6:42"
Now does the New Testament teach believers to not judge? Jesus did say: "Judge not, that you be not judged" (Mat. 7:1)? Jesus gave that teaching to hypocrites (Mat. 7:5) however. For He specifically commands His followers to judge:
* "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment." John 7:24
"Judge not" is the Hypocrites Golden Rule. For "judge not" (Mat. 7:1-5) is simply a hypocrites application of do unto others as you would have them do unto you (Mat. 7:12). "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged" (Mat. 7:2). Judge others as you would have them do unto you inverted is Judge not if you do not want to be judged. Therefore the hypocrite does not judge. As Jesus said, "Judge not... you hypocrite" (Mat. 7:1, 5 KJV; Ezek. 16:52).
Jesus warned against judging falsely or with hypocrisy. For immediately after saying "judge not," Jesus taught just how to judge correctly:
* "And why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye?... Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye." Mat. 7:3, 5
Christ kept this theme throughout His ministry. "Hypocrites," Jesus said, "why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right?" (Luke 12:56-57). Still, His own followers have mostly ignored the Lord's harsh rebuke: "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye" (Mat. 7:5).
"Judge Not" is the Hypocritical Oath and hypocrite haven. He who lives in a glass house should not throw stones. Such Christians, though, should relocate. Move into "the temple of the great God, which is being built with heavy stones" (Ezra 5:8).
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* Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judge by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life? I say this to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you, not even one, who will be able to judge between his brethren? 1 Cor. 6:2-5
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It is a shame that some people know so little of Jesus's word that they can't get beyond "judge not"... even a child versed in a few lessons knows better.
I don't jerks that can't call evil evil though. = I don't fathom jerks that can't call evil evil though.
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Jesus said, "For God so loved the world." Then two verses later He added, "but he who does not believe is condemned already" (John 3:18). By today’s Christian standard, no unbeliever would know that he is condemned, because most believers will not communicate this vital truth. John 3:16 is nice. John 3:18 is not nice.
Well that is the first I've heard of this idea that judging others is something we ought to be doing. Obviously, one ought to judge on a basic human level of observation, but first worry about getting one's own affairs straight. And your verses makes sense when directed to hypocrites in this regard.
The 'judging' I'm thinking if is deciding whether or not certain people will be saved or not. That's God's decision, we have no idea, are in no position to decide, and have no authority to. Since we all have sinned, we all have been at risk of not being saved, and as long as we're alive, we will be at risk.
You overall approach is a little strange, do you mind if i ask what denomination you're a part of, for curiousity?
Calling evil evil is one thing, but how can you presume to judge a man's soul when God forgives?
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