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Chief Rabbi Issues Unprecedented Excommunication Order
Israel National News ^ | 12/14/2006 | by Hana Levi Julian

Posted on 12/14/2006 4:56:02 AM PST by EBH

The unprecedented move came after a group of senior officials of the small hareidi sect were photographed embracing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The officials were attending a two-day conference in Teheran aiming to produce evidence that the Holocaust never took place.

The Chief Rabbi called on all rabbis and communities in Israel and around the world to honor the memory of the Holocaust victims by adhering to the cherem against the Neturei Karta members.

Rabbi Metzger said in his statement to Jewish leaders around the globe, “They betrayed the Jewish people and their heritage and particularly disgraced the Shoah [Holocaust] and desecrated its memory. With their shameful behavior, they tried to stain the Jewish people, who shy away from this low behavior.”

The Chief Rabbi’s spokesman Arik Eliovitz told the Ynet news service that Rabbi Metzger called for the cherem on his own, an unusual act. According to Jewish law, a Beit Din (rabbinical court) with a minimum of three rabbinical judges is required to enforce a call for cherem.

Former Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yisrael Meir Lau, who is currently the Chief Rabbi of Tel Aviv, also condemned the group. "It is something completely insane," he said flatly. “Is it possible that there is any Jew, who for some reason or another, can support a Holocaust denier in a generation when people with numbers tattooed on their arms are still among us? It is an insanity that has no justification and no explanation.”

Eida Hareidit Slams One of Their Own The hareidi religious Eida Hareidit, an anti-Zionist Jerusalem-based council of Hassidic courts and other hareidi religious groups - including the Neturei Karta - was equally harsh in its response to the group’s actions.

In a sharply-worded editorial published Thursday, the Ha’Eida newspaper said, “That tiny group of wierdos is liable to incite hatred against hareidim.”

Editor Shmuel Popenheim wrote in his piece, “Those people’s distorted anti-Zionist zealotry, which is sanctified in their eyes above and beyond the opinion of our Torah sages, brought them to that conference.” He stopped short of endorsing the call for a cherem on the group, and estimated there were no more than ten people in all of Israel who supported the group’s actions and perhaps some 25 others worldwide.

Israel Hirsch, one of the Neturei Karta participants of the conference, said his group “shares a common platform with Ahmadinejad when it comes to the so-called myth the Zionist movement created around the Holocaust.” The resident of hareidi Jerusalem’s Mea Shearim neighborhood said he "wanted to make it clear in Teheran that Zionism uses the Holocaust as an excuse for the existence of the Zionist state in the Land of Israel.”

Hirsch went on to say that the Iranian claim is logical. “They aren’t saying that there wasn’t a Holocaust,” he insisted. “But who perpetrated the Holocaust? The Nazis, the Germans. So they should at least pay compensation to the Jewish nation and establish a Jewish state within Germany and not within the land of Israel, which belongs to the Palestinians.”

This same group kissed and hugged Ahmadinejad when he appeared in New York to attend the opening of the United Nations General Assembly in September. They also exhorted Jews to pray for a Hizbullah victory during the second war with Lebanon after two IDF reservists were captured by the terror organization in a cross-border raid this summer.

They attended the funeral of former Palestine Liberation Organization chairman and chief terrorist Yasser Arafat, and have been funded by Palestinian Authority terrorist organizations.

Documents discosed by the Intelligence and Terrorism Information Center and the Center for Special Studies (CSS) reveal that Arafat paid more than $50,000 to Hirsch, considered the “foreign minister” of the anti-Zionist Neturei Karta sect.

CSS stated that the documents uncovered during Operation Defense Shield carried out in Jenin by the IDF in April 2002 showed that Arafat paid $25,000 and $30,000 in January and February of that year for “expenses for activities.” The investigators noted that Neturei Karta frequently supported Arafat and served as a propaganda tool for him.

Bolton: Charge Ahmadinejad With Inciting Genocide Meanwhile, the outgoing U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. John Bolton is backing a call for the president of Iran to be charged with inciting genocide because of his speeches advocating the destruction of the State of Israel.

Bolton is set to appear in New York Thursday among a panel of diplomats and lawyers calling for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to be prosecuted. The panel will be convened by the Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations.

The call for legal action came as Ahmadinejad repeated his onslaught against Israel at the gathering in Teheran, where he promised participants that the State of Israeli would soon be wiped out.


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KEYWORDS: holocaust; rabbimetzger; tehran
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1 posted on 12/14/2006 4:56:05 AM PST by EBH
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To: EBH

i think their Israeli citizenship should be revoked.


2 posted on 12/14/2006 5:03:18 AM PST by avital2
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To: EBH

Good move.


3 posted on 12/14/2006 5:03:27 AM PST by SolidWood
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To: avital2

Few of them are Israelis. AFAIK most are from America.


4 posted on 12/14/2006 5:04:08 AM PST by SolidWood
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To: EBH

Interesting. Last night on H&C I saw some American anti-Holocaust clown cite the presence of these rabbis at Mahmoud's conference as evidence that this circus was "fair and balanced."


5 posted on 12/14/2006 5:04:55 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: EBH

So, if I have this right, Jews that agree with him are OK?


6 posted on 12/14/2006 5:05:58 AM PST by n230099 ("If the creator had a purpose in equipping us with a neck, he surely meant us to stick it out.")
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To: avital2

The creature seen kissing Imadamnutjob is from Monsey, NY


7 posted on 12/14/2006 5:07:27 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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To: OldFriend

yes, some are from NY but most members of Neturei Karta are Jerusalemites.


8 posted on 12/14/2006 5:18:41 AM PST by avital2
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To: SolidWood

most members of Neturei Karta are Jerusalemites.


9 posted on 12/14/2006 5:19:05 AM PST by avital2
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To: OldFriend
That tiny group of wierdos

That's exactly what these guys are. Debbie Schussal has photos of them from some terrorist confab in Detroit a few months ago.

10 posted on 12/14/2006 5:19:50 AM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: avital2

Thanks. I didn't know for sure. This is even more sickening. They should leave Israel and move to Gaza or Iran.


11 posted on 12/14/2006 5:31:46 AM PST by SolidWood
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To: avital2
i think their Israeli citizenship should be revoked.

They're not Israelis. I think five of the six attending were American, the other a Brit.

12 posted on 12/14/2006 5:39:39 AM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: EBH
Its rarely done. But it is the right call. Reading the Neturei Karta out of the Jewish people is symbolically important since they claim to be True Orthodox Jews. But every Orthodox Jew shuns them like the plague.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

13 posted on 12/14/2006 5:42:53 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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14 posted on 12/14/2006 5:50:12 AM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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Rabbi Metzger: Boycott Neturei Karta participants of Iran conference
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3339840,00.html ^

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1753188/posts
Posted on 12/13/2006 8:54:05 PM CST by yochanan


Rabbi Metzger: Boycott Neturei Karta participants of Iran conference

In dramatic, unusual step, Israel’s chief rabbi calls on world rabbis to deny Neturei Karta representatives who attended Holocaust denial conference, says ‘They betrayed the Jewish people, their heritage, disgraced the Shoah, desecrated its memory’

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15 posted on 12/14/2006 6:00:04 AM PST by Valin (History takes time. It is not an instant thing.)
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To: goldstategop

I know it is rarely done and that makes this significant, even if it is only symbolic.


16 posted on 12/14/2006 6:07:17 AM PST by EBH
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Pulsa De Nura these shmucks.

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17 posted on 12/14/2006 6:07:36 AM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 108-112)
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To: EBH

They are Kapos! Too bad the Pope does not do this to the many U.S. politicians who continually flaunt their abortion views. They also betray their church beliefs.


18 posted on 12/14/2006 6:09:41 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: EBH; SolidWood

I'm glad - that was a truly disgusting picture. Is this group the one known in New York as the Satmars, or are they something entirely separate? I know there are a fair number of these anti-Zionist Jews in New York (well, not only the raving Israel-hating liberals), but I was never very clear on who they were within the orthodox community.


19 posted on 12/14/2006 6:10:26 AM PST by livius
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Growing up, long long ago, there were many in our jewish community that were not zionists.

There are many jewish sects today who believe that Israel is not the promised land. They are still waiting for the messiah.

I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with anyone supporting a madman who wishes to annihilate the country of Israel and the people living there.

20 posted on 12/14/2006 6:38:57 AM PST by OldFriend (THE PRESS IS AN EVIL FOR WHICH THERE IS NO REMEDY)
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