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Chief Rabbi Issues Unprecedented Excommunication Order
Israel National News ^ | 12/14/2006 | by Hana Levi Julian

Posted on 12/14/2006 4:56:02 AM PST by EBH

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21 posted on 12/14/2006 6:56:22 AM PST by debg
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To: livius

A large percentage of all religious Jews are 'non-Zionist', in the sense that they do not regard the State of Israel as an actual Jewish government.

Many Jewish groups will not take part in the Israeli government, though thankfully almost none will co-operate with its enemies.

The Land of Israel is important, regardless of its governance. It is a good thing for Jews to live in a Jewish community, and Israel is a large one. And it is generally a good thing to be politically aware in whatever community one lives.


22 posted on 12/14/2006 7:17:33 AM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: debg

That picture is kind of gay.
23 posted on 12/14/2006 7:40:13 AM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem
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To: EBH

I can't imagine the deep self-loathing this Jewish man must feel to be able to literally suck face with a man who wishes him and every one of his kind dead. Amazing!


24 posted on 12/14/2006 8:06:31 AM PST by LadyNavyVet
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To: GovernmentIsTheProblem

Silly rabbi, d***s are for chicks...


25 posted on 12/14/2006 8:24:50 AM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: EBH
a minimum of three rabbinical judges is required to enforce a call for cherem.

Is there actually a need for enforcement? This little band of obnoxious nuts are the Jewish equivalent of Fred Phelps' "church", grabbing every opportunity for an enraging photo op, while claiming to be on a mission from God. I have trouble believing that any Jew outside of their little band (or non-Jew for that matter) is buddying up to them.

26 posted on 12/14/2006 8:34:50 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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I don't care who they are or what they profess to believe however as far as I am concerned these fools are not Rabbis. How can you possibly believe you can teach when you embrace the enemy of your people ?


27 posted on 12/14/2006 8:40:49 AM PST by Dov in Houston (Hmmmm....)
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This is totally separate from the Satmars. The Satmars are nuts, but they're too busy brawling with each other in their synagogues to run around hugging goyish terrorists. While the Satmars are technically anti-Zionist for theological reasons, they don't make a big deal about it, and from what I've read, many of them really accept that a state of Israel is a political necessity given the current political situation in that part of the world.


28 posted on 12/14/2006 8:41:59 AM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: debg

This "rabbi" is a putz.


29 posted on 12/14/2006 8:47:24 AM PST by windsorknot
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Judas Iscariot also betrayed with a kiss.

30 posted on 12/14/2006 10:16:40 AM PST by Albion Wilde (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. -2 Cor 3:17)
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To: Albion Wilde

That was my exact thought when I first saw this photo.


31 posted on 12/14/2006 10:20:15 AM PST by debg
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What, exactly, does a "cherem" do? Once someone has a "cherem" issued against them, what is their status?


32 posted on 12/14/2006 10:32:03 AM PST by Campion ("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
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To: EBH

Rabbi Metzger makes much sense here. Unfortunately, his own ecumenical activities are contrary to Torah and are ultimately just as damaging to the Jewish People (and the world) as what these NK's are doing.


33 posted on 12/14/2006 11:31:06 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (VeYa`aqov 'ahav 'et-Yosef mikkol-banayv ki-ven-zequnim hu' lo; ve`asah lo ketonet-passim.)
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can't imagine the deep self-loathing this Jewish man must feel to be able to literally suck face with a man who wishes him and every one of his kind dead. Amazing!

Think how Ahmadinejad must feel. Truly, he believes that the enemy of his enemy is his friend.

34 posted on 12/14/2006 12:09:22 PM PST by archy (I am General Tso. This is my Chief of Staff, Colonel Sanders....)
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To: hlmencken3; OldFriend; GovernmentShrinker

Thanks for the explanation. I lived in New York for many years, and I guess I assumed it was the Satmars because they seem to be a little unpredictable and often have conflicts with other Orthodox groups.

I'm not Jewish, but I can understand that Jews wouldn't regard the state of Israel as the fulfillment of the promise. However, as you have all pointed out, it is a political necessity or at least something politically adviseable. I think that having a state provides at least some protection.

And certainly nothing, nothing, nothing at all justifies their hanging out with Ahmadinejad and publically supporting him. It gives him a lot of ammunition and confuses many non-Jews in a big way by making it look as if he and his positions are somehow acceptable to Jews and he's not so bad after all. This, of course, is exactly what he is trying to do.


35 posted on 12/14/2006 12:09:47 PM PST by livius
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