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Failing to Know the Enemy, and Ourselves
Real Clear Politics ^ | December 13, 2006 | Jack Kelly

Posted on 12/13/2006 5:02:28 AM PST by Old Badger

"If you know the enemy and you know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles," Sun Tzu wrote. "If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.".......... We listen to famous people because they are famous, not because they have any insight into the topic at hand. (The news media paid little attention to the opinions of retired generals Jack Keane, Wayne Downing and Barry McCaffrey, who met with the President Monday, though they have forgotten more about Iraq than the members of the ISG ever learned.)

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: politics; war

1 posted on 12/13/2006 5:02:37 AM PST by Old Badger
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To: Old Badger

I'll have to get back to any replies this afternoon.


2 posted on 12/13/2006 5:05:05 AM PST by Old Badger
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To: Old Badger

We have been preached to that islam is a "religion of peace" while the evidence right in front of us tells us it ain't so. How are Americans supposed to understand the threat and even name the enemy when our leadership pumps out this kind of nonsense? We have an ongoing invasion coming from our southern border and we're told to adapt to it somehow.

We've already lost.


3 posted on 12/13/2006 5:18:41 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Emmett McCarthy
We've already lost.

We have certainly been poorly served by many of our so-called leaders. However, I would rather that we, as a nation, have yet to begin the fight.

Our President is strong and has much resolved, but his family and he are too close to the Saudi royal family to understand the threat of Islam.

Also the fact that there are many fine muslims in the U.S., such as Dr. Zalmay Khalilzad (amb. to Iraq), further complicates the President's use of language in defining the enemy.

He was correct IMO in calling the enemy islamofascism but he is too afraid of the public and of his friends to use it with great conviction.

We will to wait until 2008 for a leader in this war who will clearly define the enemy.

4 posted on 12/13/2006 5:31:05 AM PST by Dark Skies (Sick and Tired of FR admin mods)
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We fight a PC war...they don't...
We fight with Lawyers behind every soldier..they don't
We die...we get nothing..they die..they get 72 Virgins

we had better start fighting..or we will lose the war through attrition...and our way of life is finished...$5.00 gas....no travel...millions of illegals...we will become a third world country
5 posted on 12/13/2006 5:41:11 AM PST by Youngman442002
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To: Old Badger
That the Report of the Iraq Study Group is an act of folly is clear enough. History as well as logic leads to that conclusion. See below.

Congressman Billybob

Latest article: "The Report of the Nazi Study Group"

6 posted on 12/13/2006 6:09:08 AM PST by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Please get involved.)
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To: Old Badger

There is and always has been only one solution to this war: fight and keep fighting.

But the hard fighting has been put on hold for too long, and the drag effect is: waning popular support.


The fact that it has come to such a thing as the ISG is telling.

Until the enemy in Iraq is roundly smashed, we will continue to tread water.


7 posted on 12/13/2006 6:15:38 AM PST by period end of story (This tagline hasn't been banned or suspended.)
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To: Dark Skies

Believe me, I do like your view and would hope for the sake of both my nation and my children that it's correct. What undermines my hope, though, is the fact that we have so many of the enemy already here amongst us - an unarmed, unresisted invasion force has walked into our country and is more than prepared to take up arms to kill us on our own streets. This war, when it finally happens, will bloody our non-combatant citizens right here. Ain't gonna be pretty.


8 posted on 12/13/2006 6:20:52 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Dark Skies

>>> We will to wait until 2008 for a leader in this war who will clearly define the enemy.

Newt is the one to do it. ... imo.


9 posted on 12/13/2006 6:40:03 AM PST by MCT- RI - IL
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