Posted on 12/08/2006 8:31:16 PM PST by rakovskii
Well, of course its all God's fault, he created and allows gays to live.
/satire off
You may be right, unfortunately. For over a century, several anti-Christian, anti-traditional schools of thought have promoted a world free from the restraints of religion, traditional family, and moral responsibility. These advocates of these positions have taken over academia from kindergarten to graduate school, the entertainment industry, the mainstream media, etc., especially in the 1960s and thereafter. Using the tactics of gradualism, they are slowly achieving their goal, which is to turn all of America, indeed all of the Western world, into hellholes like San Francisco and Amsterdam. If history is any guide, decent people who adhere to traditional morality will be driven underground. In the last few years, ministers in Canada and Sweden who preach what the Bible teaches about sodomy have suffered fines and imprisonment.
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; who substitute bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and clever in their own sight!" (Isaiah 5:20-21 (NASB))
It may not matter to you - but I think it does matter to reasonable people. And beyond that - child rearing is already opened up to homosexuals - it is far too late to try and stop that.
I know that the DSM2 has been superceded. Funny thing that they "voted" into normalcy behavior that had been considered deviancy and an illness for several thousand years.
Just remember they can vote in an illness like "conservative personality disorder" just as easily....
The Haggard episode shows clearly that Evangelicals are in denial and that their lifestyle encourages closeted homosexuals to live a sham life, being married and having kids when they are living a lie.
Generalizations go both ways, its a bitch.
"...Donating is one thing, how many kids have you adopted?..."
Your Q is a red herring but the answer is ONE.
But none of us get brownie points for adopting healthy white youngsters because there is a shortage of those waiting for adoptions. The greatest demand is for infants, then young children, and older children are less "adoptable". But there are some great traditional one man and one woman couples that adopt handicapped children and older children.
Not to mention that, what are the stats? Something like 35-45% of homosexual men were "introduced" to the "lifestyle" as kids by older homosexuals.
It may not be as risky for lesbian couples...but homosexual men are infamous predators. The main issue with lesbians is the whole fatherhood issue...every study I've heard of increasingly cites a father in the home as necessary for healthy development in both boys and girls.
Look at the African-American community in the inner city today to see what--at a sociological leval--fatherless households bring....
I worked for a gay, white male couple who adopted an African-American baby girl.
They have been the most wonderful parents I have seen.
Again, the ideal situation is a man and a woman, but that does not take away from these great parents.
No, you are confusing utopian socialism and freedom. One is free to make the best of the life they have - but one has no *right* to insist that their life circumstances be changed. Just as one does not have a *right* to two legs or to be free of blindness of disease. It is preferable - but it is NOT a *right*. There is no *right* to a mother or father or to other people's money.
Good for you, you are a hero in my book, I have nothing but praise for you.
What bothers me is that so many people damn those who adopt that are gay, and don't care so much about the quality of life for the kid, just the condemnation of the parents.
LOL... Now I see my problem , half my family are Scots and the other half Irish.
Only one thing changed the definition in the manual: politics.
There is NO "God given right" for children to be raised by fathers. Throughout recorded history, many children have never known their own fathers because of death due to war and/or disease. Rape or consensual unmarried sexual congress has also kept many fathers out of children's' lives, as has divorce.
Though the concept of teenagehood is the youngest age specific class ( made up in the late thirties/early forties ), childhood, as we all think of it, isn't really all that much older, having been more or less invented in Victorian times and then, ONLY for the upper middle and upper classes!
Children of the upper classes used to be farmed out to others, of the same station, to be raised to be knights, in the Middle Ages, with the poor and lower class' children being shipped off to work in higher class homes as servants. Farm children worked on farms, devoid, more or less of childhoods and once the Industrial Revolution hit, they went off to work in mills and mines and sweatshops; as well as being servants and prostitutes and thieves.
Some heterosexuals make terrible parents, so do some homosexuals and lesbians. The reverse is also true.
History is a fascinating subject.......I suggest that you learn some.
As a member of society at large, I do have a vested interest in what takes place, whether you can grasp it or not. You can twaddle all you like about the perfect homosexual family environment, thinking of every excuse in the book to legitimize these unfortunate situations, and I can still recognize them for what they are. You are opening up a pandora's box that I am not willing to.
For every beautiful story you can recite, I beleive there to be ten to twenty that are disgusting and sorded.
Where do evangelicals come in this thread?
Haggard is a homo, and betrayed the evangelical community though his deceit, double life and his perversion.
But in your twisted mind you think Evangelicals are to blame and not Haggard?
Foley CLEARLY hurt the party because Republicans did not want to expose him as they thought they would called homophobic thanks to the grwoing influence of people like you and the log cabin republicans.
By doing such ridiculous comparisions, you are clearly revealing your liberal/libertarian views and making a complete mockery of yourself in this forum.
See post 159.
The "some of my best friends are gay" defense for radically changing the lives of children is vacuous at best and evil in its lazy narcissism. Children need a mother and a father.
Evidently you're not quite able to read and comprehend this thread. I agreed with that statement early on.
Every civilization that has accepted deviant lifestlyes as a norm has been near the end of it's cycle.
Gramsci, a young communist who died in one of Mussolini's prisons in 1937 at the age of 46, conjured up the notion of a 'quiet' revolution that could be diffused throughout a culture -- over a period of time -- to destroy it from within. He was the first to suggest that the application of psychology to break the traditions, beliefs, morals, and will of a people could be accomplished quietly and without the possibility of resistance. He deduced that "The civilized world had been thoroughly saturated with Christianity for 2,000 years..." and a culture based on this religion could only be captured from within.
Gramsci insisted that alliances with non-Communist leftist groups would be essential to Communist victory. In our time, these would include radical feminist groups, extremist environmental organizations, so-called civil rights movements, anti-police associations, internationalist-minded groups, liberal church denominations, and others. Working together, these groups could create a united front working for the destructive transformation of the old Judeo-Christian culture of the West.
yitbos - Tolerance is acceptance.
I thought I was the only person who understood this:
Though the concept of teenagehood is the youngest age specific class ( made up in the late thirties/early forties ), childhood, as we all think of it, isn't really all that much older, having been more or less invented in Victorian times and then, ONLY for the upper middle and upper classes!
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