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Bloomberg sues 12 gun dealers in five states
newyorkbusiness.com ^ | December 7, 2006 | David Jones

Posted on 12/07/2006 1:05:14 PM PST by neverdem

The city sued 12 gun dealers in five states for allegedly selling weapons that were traced to crimes committed in New York.

The New York City Police Department has traced more than 300 confiscated guns sold by these dealers between 1994 and 2002, said Mayor Michael Bloomberg in announcing the lawsuit. The dealers are located in Georgia, Ohio, Pennsylvania, South Carolina and Virginia.

The lawsuit is part of the mayor's pledge to crack down on gun dealers whose weapons wind up being used to commit crimes in New York. In May, he sued 15 dealers in an effort to get illegal weapons off the streets.

Thursday's suit names Gwinnett Pawn Shop, Toccoa Pawn & Variety and Hot Shots Jewelry & Pawn in Georgia; Miller Rod & Gun in Ohio; John's Gun & Tackle Room in Pennsylvania, Coastal Pawn Shop, Dick's Pawn, Rooks Sale & Service and Trader World in South Carolina and Bob Moates Sport Shop, Franklin Rod & Gun Shop and Town & Country Pawn Shop in Virginia.

All 12 dealers named in the new suit sold a gun to a team of undercover investigators, who wore hidden cameras during a sting operation. Since May, six gun dealers have settled with New York City after they were targeted in the original suit.

Mr. Bloomberg also launched a subway ad campaign that warns riders about higher mandatory sentences for illegal gun possession. The state Legislature passed a bill raising the mandatory minimum sentence to three-and-a-half years from one year. The ads will be displayed in 2,044 subway cars, and include a photo of prison cell.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Georgia; US: New York; US: Ohio; US: Pennsylvania; US: South Carolina; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; bloomberg; kingbloomberg; mayormike; michaelbloomberg; rino; shallnotinfringe
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To: neverdem

Can the states should sue NYC and Mayor Bloomberg personally for violation of its citizens rights?


81 posted on 12/07/2006 6:57:39 PM PST by kcar
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To: 2banana

"So NYC Cops can run sting operations anywhere in the country?"

Apparently.

The arrogance of NYC knows no bounds.


82 posted on 12/07/2006 7:18:49 PM PST by EnochPowellWasRight
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To: mylife
You cant just drive to TX from NYC and buy a gun from a licensed dealer>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..

Yes you can. Local firearms laws need to be met but residency in a state is not usually required. Most do a phone in backgroud check to a federal database, fill out the local forms ( sometimes for the county). Pistols are NOT supposed to be transported across state lines by the purchasers. They need to be shipped or sent to a licensed dealer in the state where the purchaser is resident, for logging into that dealers log.Usually another background check is done and another set of local paperwork completed.

Its legal to buy guns in another state. We do have an INterstate Commerce Claus in the US Constitution, so such sales cannot be prohibited, but the transport of arms can be regulated.

We do it all the time between New Hampshire and Vermont.

83 posted on 12/07/2006 7:35:35 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal flatulance goes the best hope of the West, and who wants to be a smart feller?)
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To: Candor7
residency in a state is not usually required.

Its required here from FFls but I spose you can buy privately from a regular citizen and wade thru the interstate transport of firearms laws on your way home.

I hate all these laws but ya gotta deal with them

84 posted on 12/07/2006 7:41:38 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Gaffer

This fat son of a bitch walks around with armed guards all day but god forbid some silly bastard still living for some strange reason in soviet NYC tries to protect himself against the animals.


85 posted on 12/07/2006 7:42:35 PM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: George W. Bush

Yep and he will NEVER get my vote.


86 posted on 12/07/2006 7:58:38 PM PST by therut
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To: Steve_Seattle

They go in and do a buy that set up so that they feel the dealer should refuse it as a straw purchase. Then they claim he's implicit in the crimes because he's skirting the laws on sales.


87 posted on 12/07/2006 8:02:28 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: mylife

Oh please you are not that much of a RKBA person. Have you read anything about this. Bloombery refuses to release tapes of his entrapement sting. Do you think these guy go in and say I'm from out of state and someone sells them a handgun. You think they slide very close to make something seem like a stray purchase. Plus if you were really so RKBA (Ans I don't doubt you are very) you would realize the whole Brady background checks which lead to so called stray purchances have been shown to do nothing to prevent crimes with firearms. I mean NOTHING. This by a study Clinton had done when he was leaving office by the National Academy of Science. I have the whole book of their report. The reason you probably know nothing about it is because it did not prove what Clinton thought it would so there was little MSM coverage.


88 posted on 12/07/2006 8:06:35 PM PST by therut
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To: therut
Oh I understand that Bloomberg is an asshole but personally I dont wish to be a test case for point of law.

It sounds to me as if the ohio pawn shops got loose on law OR are being whipped on technicalities
89 posted on 12/07/2006 8:20:19 PM PST by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: 2banana

No they can't. They are already under federal investigation for one of thier stunts. They were also in PA last spring 'observing' fireworks stands. They would get the plate #'s off of an NY car buying fireworks in PA and then search the house of where the car was registered to- I am not sure if they are under any investigation for that. NYC is a police state.


90 posted on 12/07/2006 8:48:25 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: Alberta's Child
Stories like this only serve to remind me of all the grief I take from New York Freepers for even suggesting that New York City is a f#&%ing police state.

This coming from a NY'er.. Your are 100% correct.. NY is a f**king police state!
91 posted on 12/07/2006 8:53:57 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: mylife
You cant just drive to TX from NYC and buy a gun from a licensed dealer

Yes and no. No, an NY resident cannot purchase a gun in another state unless that FFL ships it on a NY FFL. A NYS or NYC resident CAN go out of NYC and buy rifles/shotguns. There is no law against an NYC resident buying a rifle/shotgun upstate NY. However, you either have to keep it outside of NYC (at a summer home upstate in the mtns) or 'register' it with the NYPD once you bring it back into the police state of NYC. My guns have never set foot in NYC.. and never will!

More NYC residents than you think have houses upstate NY and keep thier guns there. However, handguns and the ENTIRE state of NY are a totaly different situation.
92 posted on 12/07/2006 9:15:48 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: BigTom85

No, an NY resident cannot purchase a handgun in another state unless that FFL ships it on a NY FFL


93 posted on 12/07/2006 9:16:56 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: P8riot
Amen! And while were at it I'd like to ship all of those New York liberals back where they came from.

Better do that quick, they are quickly spreading down the east coast and becoming transplants in VA and the Carolinas. Transplant NY'ers have already f'ed up parts of Florida!
94 posted on 12/07/2006 9:21:18 PM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: neverdem

Bloomberg the so called Republican who makes the Dems look conservative. Bloomberg is more liberal than even some north east republicans.


95 posted on 12/07/2006 9:24:47 PM PST by GregH
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To: neverdem

This is going to go nowhere, The Georgia courts are going to laugh at Bloomberg. As long as the gun sales were legal there is not a thing that can be done.


96 posted on 12/07/2006 9:28:03 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: ColdSteelTalon

Do you remember the question that Charlie Rangle asked? Who the hell would want to live in Mississippi?
Anyone who owns a gun, that's who!!!!!!!!


97 posted on 12/07/2006 9:30:25 PM PST by oldenuff2no
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To: neverdem
crack down on gun dealers whose weapons wind up being used to commit crimes in New York.

Pardon my ignorance on this but I just don't understand and sure I must be missing something here. Sure there are shady gun dealers who knowingly sell to criminals. Is this what it's about? Or were the buyers legal at time of purchase but used them later in crimes or sold them or had them stolen?

98 posted on 12/07/2006 9:38:51 PM PST by daybreakcoming
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To: neverdem

Thanks for the ping!


99 posted on 12/07/2006 9:40:24 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: daybreakcoming

They showed several tapes on TV tonight. Some of the gun dealers sold the guns illegally -- one person filling out the paperwork and another buying the gun. Another dealer (in Augusta) had the gun off the counter and the paperwork gone instantly at the first whiff of something illegal.

The reason this is hitting the news now is because two undercover detectives were killed with a gun purchased in Georgia illegally.


100 posted on 12/07/2006 9:43:09 PM PST by durasell (!)
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