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Baker wants Israel excluded from regional conference
Insight Magazine ^ | December 5, 2006

Posted on 12/06/2006 12:43:40 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

The White House has been examining a proposal by James Baker to launch a Middle East peace effort without Israel.

The peace effort would begin with a U.S.-organized conference, dubbed Madrid-2, and contain such U.S. adversaries as Iran and Syria. Officials said Madrid-2 would be promoted as a forum to discuss Iraq's future, but actually focus on Arab demands for Israel to withdraw from territories captured in the 1967 war. They said Israel would not be invited to the conference.

“As Baker sees this, the conference would provide a unique opportunity for the United States to strike a deal without Jewish pressure,” an official said. “This has become the most hottest proposal examined by the foreign policy people over the last month.”

Officials said Mr. Baker's proposal, reflected in the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group, has been supported by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns and National Intelligence Director John Negroponte. The most controversial element in the proposal, they said, was Mr. Baker's recommendation for the United States to woo Iran and Syria.

“Here is Syria, which is clearly putting pressure on the Lebanese democracy, is a supporter of terror, is both provisioning and supporting Hezbollah and facilitating Iran in its efforts to support Hezbollah, is supporting the activities of Hamas," National Security Advisor Stephen Hadley told a briefing last week. "This is not a Syria that is on an agenda to bring peace and stability to the region."

Officials said the Baker proposal to exclude Israel from a Middle East peace conference garnered support in the wake of Vice President Dick Cheney's visit to Saudi Arabia on Nov. 25. They said Mr. Cheney spent most of his meetings listening to Saudi warnings that Israel, rather than Iran, is the leading cause of instability in the Middle East.

“He [Cheney] didn't even get the opportunity to seriously discuss the purpose of his visit—that the Saudis help the Iraqi government and persuade the Sunnis to stop their attacks,” another official familiar with Mr. Cheney’s visit said. “Instead, the Saudis kept saying that they wanted a U.S. initiative to stop the Israelis’ attack in Gaza and Cheney just agreed.”

Under the Baker proposal, the Bush administration would arrange a Middle East conference that would discuss the future of Iraq and other Middle East issues. Officials said the conference would seek to win Arab support on Iraq in exchange for a U.S. pledge to renew efforts to press Israel to withdraw from the West Bank and Golan Heights.

“Baker sees his plan as containing something for everybody, except perhaps the Israelis,” the official said. “The Syrians would get back the Golan, the Iranians would get U.S. recognition and the Saudis would regain their influence, particularly with the Palestinians.”

Officials said Mr. Baker's influence within the administration and the Republican Party’s leadership stems from support by the president's father as well as former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. Throughout the current Bush administration, such senior officials as Mr. Hadley and Ms. Rice were said to have been consulting with Brent Scowcroft, the former president's national security advisor, regarded as close to Mr. Baker.

“Everybody has fallen in line,” the official said. “Bush is not in the daily loop. He is shocked by the elections and he's hoping for a miracle on Iraq.”

For his part, Mr. Bush has expressed unease in negotiating with Iran. At a Nov. 30 news conference in Amman, Jordan, the president cited Iran's interference in the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Al Maliki.

“We respect their heritage, we respect their history, we respect their traditions,” Mr. Bush said. “I just have a problem with a government that is isolating its people, denying its people benefits that could be had from engagement with the world.”

Mr. Baker's recommendation to woo Iran and Syria has also received support from some in the conservative wing of the GOP. Over the last week, former and current Republican leaders in Congress—convinced of the need for a U.S. withdrawal before the 2008 presidential elections—have called for Iranian and Syrian participation in an effort to stabilize Iraq.

“I would look at an entirely new strategy,” former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said. “We have clearly failed in the last three years to achieve the kind of outcome we want.”

In contrast, Defense Department officials have warned against granting a role to Iran and Syria at Israel's expense. They said such a strategy would also end up undermining Arab allies of the United States such as Egypt, Jordan and Morocco.

“The regional strategy is a euphemism for throwing Free Iraq to the wolves in its neighborhood: Iran, Syria and Saudi Arabia,” said the Center for Security Policy, regarded as being close to the Pentagon. “If the Baker regional strategy is adopted, we will prove to all the world that it is better to be America's enemy than its friend. Jim Baker's hostility towards the Jews is a matter of record and has endeared him to Israel's foes in the region.”

But Defense Secretary-designate Robert Gates, a former colleague of Mr. Baker on the Iraq Study Group, has expressed support for U.S. negotiations with Iran and Syria. In response to questions from the Senate Armed Services Committee, which begins confirmation hearings this week, Mr. Gates compared the two U.S. adversaries to the Soviet Union.

“Even in the worst days of the Cold War, the U.S. maintained a dialogue with the Soviet Union and China, and I believe those channels of communication helped us manage many potentially difficult situations,” Mr. Gates said. “Our engagement with Syria need not be unilateral. It could, for instance, take the form of Syrian participation in a regional conference.”


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To: popdonnelly
He's nothing but a K Street suckup for the Saudis. What a collection of whores in Washington!

Is Baker an actual registered foreign agent for Saudi Arabia?

Didn't he defend Saudi defendants against a civil suit by 9-11 victims?

121 posted on 12/06/2006 1:53:24 PM PST by RodgerD (Don't Abolish America. Defeat the Bush-Pelosi Mexico-Merger Scheme)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Israel should start bombing Iran before we cut them loose.


122 posted on 12/06/2006 1:54:55 PM PST by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: SJackson

Israel won't be fighting just Syria - they'll be fighting Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt, too. And they'll be hamstrung by idiots like their current PM.


123 posted on 12/06/2006 1:55:33 PM PST by Little Ray
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To: A message
Bush knew what kind of person baker was. Why did he want him on this committee then? Why would he put an antisemite and a man paid by the saudis like baker in such a position?
124 posted on 12/06/2006 1:55:51 PM PST by processing please hold
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To: stockstrader

The Administration didn't float any trial balloon (lead balloon, actually) of higher Social Security taxes via lifting the income ceiling. Al Hubbard was on Kudlow last night and said that the Democrats may wish to bring that to the table and Bush will flatly reject it, as he will with the other rumor about bringing the top 35% rate back to 39.6%.


125 posted on 12/06/2006 1:56:16 PM PST by petercooper
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To: West Coast Conservative
This like the 1938 Munich Conference to which the Czechs were NOT invited. The diktat led to World War II. Shades Of 38' all over again. Baker to Israel: "Drop Dead!"

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

126 posted on 12/06/2006 1:57:05 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: West Coast Conservative

James Baker is a despicable piece of excrement, and I hope he is not long for this earth.


127 posted on 12/06/2006 1:57:49 PM PST by montag813
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To: Lurker
The Israelis would get what, exactly? Why should they agree?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

128 posted on 12/06/2006 1:58:19 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: West Coast Conservative

We are just distancing ourselves from Israel so they can attack Iran, Syria and Lebanon on their own without us being tied into it. That's my take.


129 posted on 12/06/2006 1:58:44 PM PST by 38special (I mean come'on.)
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To: prairiebreeze
The plain said truth is that many American liberal Jews are very much anti-Israel.

That doesn't _necessarily_ make them self-haters. When the Zionists took power in 1948 there were a lot of Jews around the world that didn't think the best solution was to cluster in the one place in the world that was going to be a stick in the eye every day to every arab in the region. The miracle may be that they've lasted this long.

130 posted on 12/06/2006 1:58:50 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: SJackson
What price is this administration willing to pay for peace in Iraq? Baker wants us to talk with syria and iran, jumpin' Jehoshaphat, that's insane. Both countries want to wipe Israel off the map.
131 posted on 12/06/2006 1:59:22 PM PST by processing please hold
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To: West Coast Conservative
[Madrid-2] has been supported by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice,

Ok, let's hear from all the "Condi 2008" assclowns now. She is a disgusting Arab ass-kissing creep who was incompetant as NSA director and should have been fired on 9/12/2001.

132 posted on 12/06/2006 1:59:57 PM PST by montag813
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To: everyone

Yuck.


133 posted on 12/06/2006 2:01:31 PM PST by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: RodgerD
Didn't he defend Saudi defendants against a civil suit by 9-11 victims?

Yes, successfully.

Is Baker an actual registered foreign agent for Saudi Arabia?

I don't think so, but I believe that's only required when lobbying, as opposed to legal representation.

134 posted on 12/06/2006 2:02:06 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: processing please hold

Actually, this committee was congressionally appointed and chartered.


135 posted on 12/06/2006 2:03:12 PM PST by ichabod1 (After the attacks of 9/11, profiling Muslims is more like profiling the Klan.)
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To: processing please hold
This would be a national disaster, a self-inflicted humiliation of the highest order for the United States. Basically, America throws in the towel, rewards those killing American troops and sells its only ally, Israel down the river. The American Moment in history would be gone forever and every one would know it. The Baker Study Group proposal amounts not to "peace in our time" but to a recipe to the next war.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

136 posted on 12/06/2006 2:03:34 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: processing please hold
What price is this administration willing to pay for peace in Iraq? Baker wants us to talk with syria and iran, jumpin' Jehoshaphat, that's insane. Both countries want to wipe Israel off the map.

I don't think this is about peace in Iraq, it's about getting out at minimal cost. If Baker can do a few favors for the Saudis, a palestinian state for example, so much the better.

137 posted on 12/06/2006 2:03:42 PM PST by SJackson (had to move the national debate from whether to stay the course to how do we start down the path out)
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To: stockstrader

oops- Glenn Hubbard


138 posted on 12/06/2006 2:04:03 PM PST by petercooper
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To: rahbert

LOL, you know, the good one. In Knoxville. ^_^


139 posted on 12/06/2006 2:04:45 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: West Coast Conservative
“As Baker sees this, the conference would provide a unique opportunity for the United States to strike a deal without Jewish pressure,”

Go ahead, James Baker-Al-Saud, make your "deal without the Jews". Then try to enforce it on a nation with 1,000 nuclear warheads and see how far you get. May God curse James Baker and see to it his demise is long and painful.

140 posted on 12/06/2006 2:05:19 PM PST by montag813
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