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1 In 32 Americans In Jail, On Parole
FOX ^ | 11/30/06 | Kasie Hunt

Posted on 11/30/2006 11:21:21 AM PST by Froufrou

A record 7 million people _ or one in every 32 American adults _ were behind bars, on probation or on parole by the end of last year, according to the Justice Department. Of those, 2.2 million were in prison or jail, an increase of 2.7 percent over the previous year, according to a report released Wednesday.

More than 4.1 million people were on probation and 784,208 were on parole at the end of 2005. Prison releases are increasing, but admissions are increasing more.

Men still far outnumber women in prisons and jails, but the female population is growing faster. Over the past year, the female population in state or federal prison increased 2.6 percent while the number of male inmates rose 1.9 percent. By year's end, 7 percent of all inmates were women. The gender figures do not include inmates in local jails.

"Today's figures fail to capture incarceration's impact on the thousands of children left behind by mothers in prison," Marc Mauer, the executive director of the Sentencing Project, a Washington-based group supporting criminal justice reform, said in a statement. "Misguided policies that create harsher sentences for nonviolent drug offenses are disproportionately responsible for the increasing rates of women in prisons and jails."

From 1995 to 2003, inmates in federal prison for drug offenses have accounted for 49 percent of total prison population growth.

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To: Tulane
If you regulate and limit the amount of drugs they can buy, a black market of drugs will show up to fill the demand.

So don't regulate the amount of drugs they can buy. If they want to overdose, let them. That's a decision that every adult can make for themselves.

They steal to pay for the things they can't buy, since all they have is spent on drugs.

But they would steal less if drugs were cheaper, right? They certainly wouldn't need to steal more, so at best for you this point is a wash...

Most junkies I know cannot hold a job.

Most colleagues of functional drug addicts do not know about their addiction.
81 posted on 11/30/2006 1:14:07 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Stone Mountain
No. It does this now because prices are artificially high due to the fact that drugs are illegal.

I disagree. A large dairy farmer in Idaho decided he would manufacture some meth for his own use. Agriculture investigators arrived to find his herds starving and blobs of brown goop in the barn...the decomposing remains of some of his cows. They confiscated all but 100 head to see if he was capable of managing those cows. He wasn't. The meth turned him from a successful dairy farmer into a worthless meth addict. It wasn't a matter of being able to afford the drugs. He had plenty of money. It destroyed his life anyway.

You advocate making this scenario easy, cheap and legal for everyone. Brilliant.

82 posted on 11/30/2006 1:17:08 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: FormerACLUmember
The core of the democrat party. 100% true blue democrat voters.

The party of freaks and fellons!

83 posted on 11/30/2006 1:18:27 PM PST by Vasilli22 (http://www.richardfest.blogspot.com/)
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To: Froufrou

Take a walk around Baltimore and I bet you will conclude the ratio should be higher.


84 posted on 11/30/2006 1:18:37 PM PST by Vision ("As a man thinks...so is he." Proverbs 23:7)
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To: Tulane
The world is full of functional addicts.

I said that there are a bunch out there. Despite your glibness, it is true. Most drug experts would agree with me. Here is a typical first-person example: http://www.blacktable.com/lang041104.htm

"A functional addict doesn't rob and pillage for heroin because there is a risk of being caught, and if you are caught you don't get a reduction cure, you get sick and are then forced to quit. So instead the functional addict gets up every morning and goes to work. They work overtime. A functional addict operates the same way as a junky in regards to needing heroin. The difference is that a functional addict has the ability to wait.

Here's another: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:wDH7E41p1CcJ:www.newley.com/archive/stoptime.html+functional+heroin+addicts&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3&client=safari

The author was a functional heroin addict for many years, but, during that time, still managed to live her life free of major disaster. For her, heroin's principle downside is that it wastes time (hence the title). When you spend your life high on heroin, you don't have healthy relationships or a fulfilling job; you just stumble along in opiated bliss.

There are many many more out there. Just because you don't seem to be aware of the number of functional addicts out there doesn't mean they don't exist.

Heroin is only as bad as alcohol,


Why do you think heroin is worse than alcohol? Because it's illegal? I don't need to tell you how many more people have died because of alcohol than because of heroin do I? Or how many more people as a percentage of the population are genetically predisposed to an alcohol addiction?

Still, this isn't the point I was making. Even if heroin was 1000 times worse than alcohol, I still think it should be legal. And adults should be able to decide for themselves what they ingest. Instead of our government making the decision for us.

85 posted on 11/30/2006 1:23:50 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Froufrou

When I was in grade school (some years ago), I often wondered how many of my classmates would end up in prison...it seemed to me that the world would be a little better place if some of them were locked up.


86 posted on 11/30/2006 1:25:16 PM PST by flipper999 (I would rather hunt with Cheney then ride in a car with Ted Kennedy.)
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To: Stone Mountain

I don't need to tell you how many more people have died because of alcohol than because of heroin do I?

__________________________________________

Gee, part of the reason wouldn't be because it is legal, and easier to get, would it?


87 posted on 11/30/2006 1:29:26 PM PST by Tulane
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To: Tulane
One of my points is: the state should not sanction something as bad for you as heroin or coke. Yes, alcohol and tobacco will kill you over time...but they are nothing like designer narcotics.

I don't believe that legalizing something is the same thing as the state sanctioning it. The state doesn't sanction tobacco or alcohol, in fact they spend money to help people not to use these substances, but they don't make them illegal either. Incidentally, heroin will generally take a longer time to kill an addict than alcohol will an alcoholic. In fact, many times, heroin addicts die when they are trying to get off the drug since the heroin acts as a preservative of sorts. This is what happened to Jerry Garcia, btw. It wasn't the heroin that killed him (directly) - it was when he tried to detox. The other reason that heroin addicts tend to die is that since heroin isn't regulated, people can't fix the dosage since they are just buying a white powder on the street. Might be 95% pure, might be 15% pure. This is how the typical heroin overdose occurs.
88 posted on 11/30/2006 1:29:36 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Tulane
Gee, part of the reason wouldn't be because it is legal, and easier to get, would it?

Not really. They tried prohibition and people were drinking anyway. But instead of the government making money off of it from taxes, they were wasting their time trying to stop people from drinkning alcohol, while organized crime made a ton of money from the fact that prices go up when a substance is made illegal.
89 posted on 11/30/2006 1:31:43 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: riverdawg

Yep, exactly my point in my #29.


90 posted on 11/30/2006 1:33:48 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: Froufrou

Okay, that's just counting the "Americans".


91 posted on 11/30/2006 1:34:02 PM PST by SQUID
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To: org.whodat
I was wondering if it was BS because I know 100's of people and I don't know one single person who is in jail or has been in jail.
92 posted on 11/30/2006 1:35:26 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Myrddin
They confiscated all but 100 head to see if he was capable of managing those cows. He wasn't. The meth turned him from a successful dairy farmer into a worthless meth addict. It wasn't a matter of being able to afford the drugs. He had plenty of money. It destroyed his life anyway.

He was able to do this despite it being illegal. Once again, I believe that anyone who wants meth can get some. Go downtown and it shouldn't take you more than 15-20 minutes of walking around.

You advocate making this scenario easy, cheap and legal for everyone. Brilliant.

As opposed to how it is now? Easy, cheap, and illegal. This farmer would have overdosed on meth whether it was legal or illegal. But if it was legal, he could at least seek out help without having to worry about being arrested.
93 posted on 11/30/2006 1:35:46 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Tulane
Gee, part of the reason wouldn't be because it is legal, and easier to get, would it?

the world is full of functional addicts.

Heroin is only as bad as alcohol, really.

So your sarcasm not withstanding, how about you tell me exactly why heroin is so much worse for people than alcohol?

94 posted on 11/30/2006 1:41:54 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Larry Lucido
Hey Larry - no relation to this guy I assume? : )

http://www.drlucido.com/

Since passage of the 1996 Compassionate Use Act (“Prop 215”), Dr. Lucido has also been performing Medical Cannabis Consultations.

95 posted on 11/30/2006 1:43:36 PM PST by Stone Mountain
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To: Froufrou
But in your scenario it is already too late to do any of that fine citizen stuff.

Never. "My scenario" invokes hyperbole. Stand up.

96 posted on 11/30/2006 3:00:22 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (* nuke * the * jihad *)
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To: Myrddin

That's what I said for the hardened criminals : chips that cause intense pain and deadman switch chips : power off = serotonin injected into the bloodstream. Then go pick up the body and into the HOLE they go, like the unabomber, shut away for life. As to housing, set aside a section(or more)of land(640 acres)in each state for prisoner-cabins, they are electronically locked down to their own little acre but otherwise live normal lives. No physical contact between plots = no rapes, no gangs. They are NOT in their former homes w/ankle bracklets, the "ankle bracelets" are medically implanted chips, AND the program is optional : either live out here on your own, or in the slammer, your choice.....As to a dopamine injection device, they already inject people with parkinson's disease w/dopamine, why not mobile units for hard core addicts? No, not something you buy over the counter, a specifically prescribed device for specific people. There are some 60 brain chemicals, that's why specific brain chemical-delivery for specific individuals to prevent adverse drug reactions. I don't see this as any great technological leap beyond what is already being done in modern medicine...


97 posted on 11/30/2006 4:35:52 PM PST by timer
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To: FormerACLUmember

The core of the democrat party. 100% true blue democrat voters.




That's it ...and let's hope not the core of the future Al quaeda. Or are they the same...


98 posted on 11/30/2006 4:37:09 PM PST by eleni121 ( + En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great))
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To: Stone Mountain
He was able to do this despite it being illegal. Once again, I believe that anyone who wants meth can get some. Go downtown and it shouldn't take you more than 15-20 minutes of walking around

No thanks. I value my TS security clearance. There's no room for any kind of addict where I work. Your cutsie phrase "functional addict" is totally unacceptable in my world.

As opposed to how it is now? Easy, cheap, and illegal. This farmer would have overdosed on meth whether it was legal or illegal. But if it was legal, he could at least seek out help without having to worry about being arrested.

His brain was too fried to care about seeking out help. What he wanted was more meth. That's pretty much all a meth addict wants.

99 posted on 11/30/2006 4:41:52 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: timer
I think you've been watching too many sci-fi movies.
100 posted on 11/30/2006 4:43:05 PM PST by Myrddin
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