Posted on 11/28/2006 11:33:13 PM PST by Azzurri
Can not link to the Detroit papers here, but this is just breaking. See the Detroit News or Free Press for information. No link on any national websites that I can find yet.
Getting while the getting is almost good.
More specifically, they have to be gone *before* Sept 17 (IIRC). The interesting thing is that Sept 17 is the day that the UAW contract is up for renewal....
This could (and should) be step 1 in breaking the UAW.
This is very interesting. This company may turn around yet!
As much chance of that -- as I have of shedding 40 years and 40 pounds..
Ain't gonna happen.. Ford Management and Labor screwed the golden goose to death.
Semper Fi
You may be right, but I think you might end up being suprised. The jury is still out.
My youngest son, a ford engineer, told me last christmas that ford has been circling the drain for years. Things like promoting homos, the UAW, sky high retirement benefits, salaries and golden parachutes, etc, have all taken their toll, and now, even though he's escaped these latest cuts, it seems the bell is tolling the funeral dirge for ford. Maybe the only way they can save themselves is with total robotic production(his specialty).
Ford as a brand name is dead, although the company may live on.
Ford has become synonmous with really bad cars and even if it is not true, that is the perception.
Now GM has done a fabulous job of a turnaround. For the most part, their cars are not bad.
Clever. This is how to diminish the awful and useless AW union. They may yet be able to compete with the Japs on an equal footing. The big 3 should relocate all their plants in right to work states like the japs do. While unions were necessary 100 years ago, they no longer have a purpose, they have become corrupt, money sucking emblems of fat useless union bosses. Who have never contributed anything.
to make up for it, the union agreed to take away huge chunks of benefits and money from the younger workers.....
there was a $900 dollar a month turnabout between those that got, and those that were told to give up stuff.....
two tier systems don't work when one group is surpressed by the other groups....
all of the shenanigans had to be okayed by the union membership, and since most were older and could take advantage of early outs, what the hell did they care if they left their brothers floundering for the next 15 yrs....ultimately, the plant folded and further killed off any benefits the workers would have rec'd.....
my point is that once you have that many workers forsaking the rest of the workers, its goodbye to not only the union, but the company.....the company has no idea what its asking for....IMO of course
but he does get the Pension guarantee board money each month....which as anyone knows, is a pittance for a man in his early 50's with 27 yrs on the job.....
so actually, I am a little jealous of the Ford "workers"......they made out...
oh damn! watch out for that fat retard michael moore to show up. Remember Roger and Me? Farfromright 9/11? Need I say more? Ok I will. Moore is a retard and if he was so damn smart he would realize he is overweight, his cholestorol is high, and is prescription to viagra is not working. Boo hoo.
$31.64 an hour? Are you kidding? I would hope that includes engineers and the like...
That's over 60k per year for manual labor!
Your neck of the woods?
I have two family members at Boeing who were hired as draftsmen in 1979 for 5.75 an hour. they now make 45.00 an hour as senior employees doing pretty much the same job.
93,600 a year to draw with a computer. What a union. If Boeing did not have so much fat because of defense contracts they would be in the same shape as Ford.
Oh, they also hate their jobs.
Are they dedicated to their particular application or can anyone pick it up and do it?
Just curious. The demand of the position may be worth the money.
In our shop, we have four professionals who sustain an entire custom business system for a 3 billion $ company. Usually shops for a company this large could approach 100. We are dedicated to our applications but each of us could pick up for the other in a crunch. There is a draconian bottom line for our department and we rely on one another. I've known my boss on another job and several people there over 15 years. there is a lot of trust, and much desire to justify that trust. My boss could call on me any time and I will march to his beat and prove ourselves, even after all those years.
I'm sorry he doesn't like his job, though. That's sad and I've been there. Maybe there are enough challenges to keep him coming back, if not the money.
If you live anywhere in Michigan, the automakers are your neck of the woods.
27 years doing pretty much the same thing would do that to me too, no matter what the field.
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