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Judge strikes president's authority to designate terrorist groups
AP on Bakersfield Californian ^ | 11/28/06 | Linda Deutsch - ap

Posted on 11/28/2006 4:32:42 PM PST by NormsRevenge

A federal judge has ruled that a portion of a post-Sept. 11 executive order allowing President Bush to create a list of specially designated global terrorist groups is unconstitutionally vague.

U.S. District Judge Audrey Collins, in a Nov. 21 ruling released Tuesday, struck down the provision and enjoined the government from blocking the assets of two foreign groups which were placed on the list.

The ruling was praised by David Cole, a lawyer for the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Constitutional Rights.

"This law gave the president unfettered authority to create blacklists," he said. "It was reminiscent of the McCarthy era."

Charles Miller, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice, said, "We are currently reviewing the decision and we have made no determination what the government's next step will be."

The judge's ruling was a reversal of her own tentative findings last July in which she indicated she would uphold wide powers asserted by Bush under an anti-terror financing law. She delayed her ruling then to allow more legal briefs to be filed.

The long-running litigation has centered on two groups, the Liberation Tigers, which seeks a separate homeland for the Tamil people in Sri Lanka, and Partiya Karkeran Kurdistan, a political organization representing the interests of Kurds in Turkey.

Both groups have been designated by the United States as foreign terrorist organizations.

The judge's 45-page ruling granted in part and denied in part a legal challenge brought by the Humanitarian Law Project, which seeks to provide training to the groups in human rights advocacy and provide them with humanitarian aid.

The judge outlined the history of Bush's Executive Order 13224 issued under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act in the days after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. He declared then that the "grave acts of terrorism" and the "continuing and immediate threat of future attacks" constituted a national emergency.

He blocked all property and interests in property of 27 groups or individuals named as "specially designated global terrorists (SDGT)." Bush also authorized the secretary of the treasury to designate anyone who "assists, sponsors or provides services to" or is "otherwise associated with" a designated group.

Collins found that Bush's authority to designate SDGTs is "unconstitutionally vague on its face." She also found that the provision involving those "otherwise associated with" the groups is vague and overbroad and could impinge on First Amendment rights of free association. She struck down both provisions.

However, she let stand sections of the order that would penalize those who provide "services" to designated terrorist groups. She said such services would include the humanitarian aid and rights training proposed by the plaintiffs.

Cole said the Humanitarian Law Project will appeal those portions of the executive order which were allowed to stand. He said the judge's ruling does not invalidate the hundreds of SDGT designations already made but "calls them into question."

Cole said the value of the decision is it "says that even in fighting terrorism the president cannot be given a blank check to blacklist anyone he considers a bad guy or a bad group and you can't imply guilt by association."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
He was given the authority by a law.

"...the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, P.L. 95-223, Title II, 91 Stat. 1626 (Dec. 28, 1977) (“IEEPA”). Pursuant to IEEPA, President Bush declared a national emergency in the wake of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and has by executive order prohibited any contributions of services to hundreds of “Specially Designated Global Terrorists,” including among them the PKK and LTTE. "

There seems to be a desire by the judiciary to create for Americans a constitutional right to interfere in the affairs of other countries.
I can understand some amount of complaint about the vagueness, but constitutionally it doesn't matter since we have no constitutional right to give money to anyone- whether a terrorist or a saint- in another country.

161 posted on 11/28/2006 7:14:27 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: NormsRevenge

vague

One entry found for vague.

Main Entry: vague
Pronunciation: 'vAg
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): vagu·er; vagu·est
Etymology: Middle French, from Latin vagus, literally, wandering
1 a : not clearly expressed : stated in indefinite terms (vague accusations) b : not having a precise meaning (a vague term of abuse)
2 a : not clearly defined, grasped, or understood : INDISTINCT (only a vague notion of what's needed); also : SLIGHT (a vague hint of a thickening waistline) (hasn't the vaguest idea) b : not clearly felt or sensed : somewhat subconscious (a vague longing)
3 : not thinking or expressing one's thoughts clearly or precisely (vague about dates and places)
4 : lacking expression : VACANT (vague eyes) (a vague stare)
5 : not sharply outlined : HAZY (met by vague figures with shaded torchlights -- Earle Birney)
synonym see OBSCURE
- vague·ly adverb
- vague·ness noun


162 posted on 11/28/2006 7:15:53 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Kyl / Cornyn in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

:o)


163 posted on 11/28/2006 7:16:40 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: glock rocks

No thanks on the lasagna, I just ate. :-)


164 posted on 11/28/2006 7:17:05 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ...... Kyl / Cornyn in '08)
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To: NormsRevenge

green beer?


165 posted on 11/28/2006 7:17:57 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: glock rocks
Well, there you go again............

Go find a nice quite chat thread to invade; dear. ;^)

166 posted on 11/28/2006 7:18:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: mrsmith
There seems to be a desire by the judiciary to create for Americans a constitutional right to interfere in the affairs of other countries.

You are spot on in that assessment.

167 posted on 11/28/2006 7:18:17 PM PST by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: xzins
As the CinC, the President has the authority constitutionally without any congressional act to define our enemies.

Not really. Congress has the inherent power to declare a state of war and regulate the military - NOT the President. The president's war-making powers are more emergency in nature; anything beyond that is generally delegated from Congress.

168 posted on 11/28/2006 7:20:22 PM PST by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: NormsRevenge

Bookmark because I am too disgusted to read this right now. Liberals give me a headache.


169 posted on 11/28/2006 7:20:35 PM PST by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: nopardons
Well, there you go again............


170 posted on 11/28/2006 7:20:55 PM PST by glock rocks
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

Sorry. I'm on dialup and sometimes just post before reading whole thread :)


171 posted on 11/28/2006 7:22:15 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: NormsRevenge

President Andy Jackson knew how to deal with judges.

"They made their decision, now let them enforce it."

The power of enforcement lies with the Executive....hahahahaha


172 posted on 11/28/2006 7:22:20 PM PST by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Another dimocommie terrorist win. Thanks to all who stayed home to teach em a lesson.


173 posted on 11/28/2006 7:23:03 PM PST by RetiredArmy (The US Military Services are THE BEST PEOPLE on the planet. God protect them.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The Vatican's Swiss Guards.


174 posted on 11/28/2006 7:24:37 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Just continue what you are doing President Bush. If she wants it done different she can come and try to make you. Witch in a black robe. Ignore them.


175 posted on 11/28/2006 7:24:37 PM PST by Libertina
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To: Miss Marple; All
even those of you who think Bush is a RINO.

Wise up Miss Marple, he IS.

That's one reason why he's now dealing with a 'Rat controlled Congress, but no need to worry - he's shown plenty of signs of looking forward to that.

And just to qualify, I'm a conservative who has voted a straight Republican ticket starting with Nixon/Agnew.
176 posted on 11/28/2006 7:25:08 PM PST by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: glock rocks
Where I got it form and it fit! LOL

Great picture, but USELESS on this thread.

177 posted on 11/28/2006 7:26:12 PM PST by nopardons
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To: FreeReign

There's also the massiver SS tax increase.


178 posted on 11/28/2006 7:27:40 PM PST by PghBaldy (Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
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To: jude24; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan

As the CinC the president is charged with immediate action against immediate enemies and enemy targets of opportunity and/or security.

This is no different than the SAME responsibility for force protection that is granted to ANY military commander.

If you recall, the commander of the USS Cole was chastised for NOT properly responding to an enemy who should have been engaged in an otherwise "friendly" (as designated by the State Deptmt) port.

Every commander has that authority of force protection.

This judges wishes to take it from the President.

This judge is insane. I predict she'll be quickly overturned, but I'm no lawyer nor the son of one. I'm just a dumb old country preacher.

There is no need for a declaration of war in order for the president to identify and engage enemies and enemy targets of opportunity/security.

Incidentally, you would find the MILITARY/Strategy/Leadership/Command classes a lot of fun were you ever to enroll in them at a local Rotc.


179 posted on 11/28/2006 7:30:13 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: PghBaldy; Extremely Extreme Extremist
There's also the massiver SS tax increase.

Thanks, I forgot about that one. Did Reagan even try for private accounts? I don't remember.

180 posted on 11/28/2006 7:36:12 PM PST by FreeReign
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