The foundational document of truth our public servants are required to affirm an oath on is The Bible. This principle should not change simply because the person who wants to be sworn is a Muslim. Either that person subscribes to the American creed and to the book America as a nation holds holy or be barred from assuming office. Keith Ellison can decide between Islam and his loyalty to America. He can accept our values or forfeit his seat in Congress.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus
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To: goldstategop
A little research shows that traditionally House Members are sworn in on the first day of office
en masse immediately after the Speaker of the House is elected and sworn in. C-SPAN's tape of the swearing in of the 109th Congress is available
here. Speaker Hastert was first sworn in by the Dean of the House around 2:13:30; the rest of the House was sworn in shortly thereafter.
In 2005, House members were only asked to raise their right hand when sworn in. Crowd shots seem to show that most Congressmen didn't put their left hand on the Bible or anything else. As a practical matter, there simply isn't a lot of room on a packed House Chamber for an aide or family member to hold the Bible, and it's physically impossible for House members to hold the Bible themselves if they have to raise their right hand. In fact, I don't even think Speaker Hastert placed his left hand on the Bible when taking his oath of office, even though he had a podium on which to place it.
Now, there may be a chance for members to have a ceremonial one-on-one swearing in for photo-op purposes (or if the Member is not present on January 3 or is later elected). For example, Congressman Rothman (D-NJ) has a picture of him being "sworn in" with his hand on what appears to be the Bible on his House
website. This is when Ellison might swear on the Koran - for a photo-op.
By the way, the House floor normally seats
448, and there are 439 other Congressmen and non-voting delegates/resident commissioners to be sworn in after the Speaker. They somehow cram more temporary seats in for the President's State of the Union Address.
To: goldstategop
This is only the beginning!
This scares me spitless!
52 posted on
11/28/2006 2:15:41 AM PST by
Coldwater Creek
(The TERRORIST are the ones who won the midterm elections!)
To: goldstategop
He's probably fearing for his life. To take the oath on the Bible will warrant him to be beheaded by his fellow Muslims.
53 posted on
11/28/2006 3:08:21 AM PST by
marvlus
To: goldstategop
Actually, no.
You don't need a book to take an oath. I used to administer oaths for National Guard enlistees. I did not use a bible to do so.
An oath is a pledge where you ask God to witness what you say is true. Breaking the oath is more serious since it makes your word sacred.
Quakers don't even take oaths, following Jesus' advice that if you are honest, taking an oath is not necessary, and if you aren't honest, taking an oath is ridiculous.
54 posted on
11/28/2006 3:20:58 AM PST by
LadyDoc
(liberals only love politically correct poor people)
To: goldstategop
That POS raghead can go straight to hell. Between al Queda, the Palis and Iranians, my tolerance for Islam has grown very thin...
55 posted on
11/28/2006 4:52:08 AM PST by
ABG(anybody but Gore)
("By the time I'm finished with you, you're gonna wish you felt this good again" - Jack Bauer)
To: goldstategop
GREAT points about Jews, secular humanists and Mormons in this piece. Sad thing is, he'll get away with his anti-Christian deed.
57 posted on
11/28/2006 5:02:14 AM PST by
PghBaldy
(Reporter: Are you surprised? Nancy Pelosi: No. My eyes always look like this.)
To: goldstategop
If I'm ever elected to public office I'll think I'll 'swear' my oath on a Sgt. Rock comic book.
Totally legal, right?
58 posted on
11/28/2006 6:22:44 AM PST by
Condor51
(Tagline Under Construction - Kindly Wear Your Hardhat)
To: goldstategop
Political Correctness: A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
By spreading this definition around, perhaps we can employ one of the more effective methods of deflating and defeating the fools who practice and promote it: RIDICULE.
Unless stopped and soon PC will DESTROY Western Civilization -- if it hasnt already.
PASS IT ON!!
To: goldstategop
73 posted on
11/28/2006 10:57:49 AM PST by
onedoug
To: goldstategop
So if a Scientologist ever is elected to Congress, what will they use, a copy of 'Dianetics?'
82 posted on
11/28/2006 1:31:37 PM PST by
dfwgator
To: goldstategop
Swearing on a Bible is taken to mean that you will abide by the tenants taught in the Bible. Foremost among them is being truthful.
You are saying, "God, be my witness, I am telling the truth."
The Koran, and the teachings of Mohammed do NOT teach Moslems to be truthful when dealing with non-Moslems. Any Imam who says that it does is lying.
Ellison is saying, "Allah, be my witness, I will do what you want."
83 posted on
11/28/2006 1:50:41 PM PST by
Bryan24
(When in doubt, move to the right....)
To: goldstategop
One of my big complaints against islam is that it believes "infidels" are still subject to its laws. I cannot in good conscience apply that same doctrine to someone who is not a Christian. He is, however, a US citizen and will be a lawmaker in the House, and he bloody well better uphold the Constitution by whatever he considers holy.
However, since muslims also live by taqiya, it really doesn't matter what he swears on.
84 posted on
11/28/2006 1:56:24 PM PST by
SlowBoat407
(A living insult to islam since 1959)
To: goldstategop
The Koran is ANTITHETICAL to the US Constitution.
For evidence, I offer the Mohammetan "democracies" of Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Kazakhistan, etc ...
He may as well take his oath on a copy of Marx's "DAS KAPITAL" or Mao Zedong's "THOUGHTS OF CHAIRMAN MAO".
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85 posted on
11/28/2006 2:17:55 PM PST by
Westbrook
(Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
To: goldstategop
The people of Minnesota have chosen this death cult member. They elected him. He's their Representative. I do hope they don't expect real Americans to recognize him as anything other than a threat to America.
91 posted on
11/28/2006 7:29:15 PM PST by
Liberty Valance
(Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
To: All
Gov. Linda Lingle (R-HI) takes the oath of office upon a
Jewish Torah on December 2, 2002, at the Hawaii State Capitol rotunda by Hawaii State Supreme Court Chief Justice Ronald Moon.
93 posted on
12/01/2006 12:21:05 AM PST by
BillyBoy
(Don't blame Illinois for Pelosi -- we elected ROSKAM)
To: All; everyone; Everybody
94 posted on
12/05/2006 9:48:39 PM PST by
Syncro
To: goldstategop
He should not be allowed to take office unless he uses a Christian Bible. No exceptions.
95 posted on
12/05/2006 9:50:02 PM PST by
Zeon Cowboy
("Show me just what Muhammad brought... and there you will find things only evil and inhuman.")
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