Posted on 11/26/2006 12:09:11 PM PST by carolgr
Radical Islam is understandably perceived as the origin of the majority of terrorism today. The average Muslim on the other hand, is perceived as being a group that would never become involved with terrorism. This perception is seriously flawed and fatally dangerous. What is the source that feeds radical Islam? The religious ideation is extrapolated from the Koran itself. Islam's sacred literature is the source, which allows for the terrorist attacks we see today. Islam is thought to be a peaceful religion. Both history and current events prove otherwise.
Islam is very clear about not being friends with Christians even though Allah is the Arabic name for God. However the God of Islam is not the God Christians worship.
Sura "5.51": O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them;
Islam differs sharply with Christianity on cardinal doctrines like the divinity of Christ and the Holy Trinity. The Koran clearly teaches to kill and dismember your enemies and espouses war for the advancement of Islam. Warfare against unbelievers is repeatedly taught in the Koran. Not every Muslim would ascribe to Jihad and secretly plot against the United States. However sources say Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world. (5) With a world population of one in five persons being Muslim, and estimates of 15%, which are radical Muslims, and another 15%, which can be swayed to become radical Muslims, the problem should be apparent. With a population of over one billion Muslims the estimates are 150 million radicals currently with an additional 150 million Muslims who can be recruited into the ranks of radical Islam (6)
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In some respects this is true. But, I don't agree all religions naturally lend themselves to terrorism. In the case of Christianity, for example, it is the misreading and ignorance of Scripture which may lead to fanaticism because of some (ignorant or otherwise) who purposefully lead the ignorant astray.
However, in the case of Islam, it is the literal rendering of the Koran and other Muslim scriptures themselves which leads to wholesale fanaticism, murder, slavery, and forced conversion to Islam.
There is a BIG difference here.
The fact all Muslims don't engage in terrorism or Jihad against the Infidel is not because they are religiously following their own scriptures. It's just the opposite. They are ignoring them, for whatever reason.
"Moderate Muslim is a moslem who has not read the Koran.
Radical Mulim does not clean the knife between head choppings."
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Indeed.....RADICAL murderous Muslims are "religious Koran-practicing Muslims".
MODERATE Muslims are considered "lukewarm backsliders" by the radicals.
"If you were some Muslim kid in the Middle East and logged on from an internet cafe, you might find this thread distressing. If you were a radical iman who genuinely hated the U.S., you might circulate this entire thread and make it the basis of a sermon. The "vaporize mecca" would be a crowd pleaser, no doubt. "
Ok all you muslims kids sneaking in here, we want you to understand that your faith is causing chaos and murder on a global scale. What you are witnessing is a reaction to that murder and chaos being executed by muslims on a global scale. It is time for you to rise up to denounce terrorism. Nevermind, you can't because you and your family could be in grave danger for denying allah his goal of dominion over the world.
As for all you imams who would use posts here to show our
reactions to your worldwide murders, unless you cease and desist from your evil ways, we are coming to a theater near you soon.
Gunpowder Plot 1605 -- oh those whacky Papists!
In a technical sense, John Brown (1800s) was a terrorist and motivated by Christianity.
Interesting to note that one of the most radical strains of Islam has its roots right here in the USA -- Colorado Springs, I believe.
Thanks for proving my point!
I see that some Europeans have begun to wake up, while most of the American left remains confident, sleeping under the blanket of protection provided by the population they spend most of their energy hating. Recently, someone posted a link to some BBC program that seemed to recognize how far away the left has gotten itself from "liberalism", in the classical sense.
"Don't forget a lot of people calling for exterminating Muslims are the same ones who scream bloody murder over the government "massacring" the "peace loving Christians" at Waco."
I don't recall any reports of those people murdering folks on a daily basis to promote their religion. Your analogy is ludicrous.
All that said, do you have a viable solution for conquering the radical muslims preventing them from killing innocents as they do on a global scale?
That's what I thought.
If we kill a billion people, then we're not better then the terrorists we wish to defeat.
The commentary at Volokh is very extensive and I haven't read (and won't read) it all. But keyword searches there have so far failed to come up with any instance of Michelle advocating or implying advocacy of extermination of muslims.
"In a technical sense, John Brown (1800s) was a terrorist and motivated by Christianity."
John Brown was a radical opponent of slavery. Slavery is a crime against humanity. Muslims on the other hand seem to have no problem with slavery. Again, the analogy is ludicrous...since Brown's motive wasn't the spread of Christianity, it was to end slavery.
I myself have not read it but I've gone to the online commentary of the book's detractors in search of support for your extermination claim and have, so far, found none.
The comparison was to show Christians acting as "terrorists." Slavery was not recognized as a crime against humanity in the mid-1800s. It was generally seen as the natural order of thing and a pretty sweet deal for some in the south.
I'm out. Off to work.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1184110/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1208187/posts?page=1,50
There is one more (it had 500+ replies IIRC) and I haven't found it yet. Give me some more time.
If Koresh had been training his followers to strap dynamite on their bodies and head into downtown Houston, then the government would have been doing the right thing.
If the Muslims expect us to respect them like Baptists, then they have to ACT like Baptists.
Since they chose to act like murderers and thugs, we need to treat them like murderers and thugs.
You make a claim about Michelle Malkin advocating mass internment and even extermination of muslims and then expect me to plow through endless FR commentary in search of your source for her alleged comments?
I don't think so.
If this is the best you can do to produce the factual source for your claim, I think I have my answer already without reading one more word.
If the whole problem is Islam, are we in some kind of worldwide quest to establish Christianity's dominance over Islam? I'm having a difficult time reconciling with those who advocate spreading it by the sword.
If Islam is the problem & conversion to Christianity is a reach, then I ask, are we in some kind of worldwide quest to establish secularism's dominance over Islam?
Abandoning all of our principles in defense of them is still abandoning them. That must mean they're not worth much of anything, it is not possible to create a lasting society based on them. So why are we trying to sell others on something we don't even believe ourselves?
You usually come at the question from a tactical perspective, which is good & necessary.
You can catch more flies with sugar than with vinegar... Is my chick mentality kicking in when I say that?
islam is not a religion and only a godless village idiot would think otherwise.
It is a death cult based on a rock, a pedaphile and a series of socialist dictators. History and current events have shown this evil to us.
You are with us or against us. So take your koranimal loving evil somewhere else...and wear a target so we'll easily find you.
and have a nice day. :-)
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