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Gap between Jews, Arabs on aptitude tests [Eeville Zionists Alert]
YNet ^ | Nov. 21, 2006 | Moran Zelikovitch

Posted on 11/21/2006 12:11:38 PM PST by Alouette

Every year in Israel some 70,000 people buckle down and study for the standardized Psychometric exam, a crucial step in their hopeful pursuit of higher education. Examinees from every sector in the country take the same exact test but when the results are analyzed the gap between the Jewish and Arab averages is significant.

The National Institute for Testing and Evaluation reports a 94 point gap between the two sectors' averages, with the Arab average standing at 469 and the Jewish one at 563. Psychometric scores range between 200 and 800, and are curved based on the current year's scores as well as the scores of several years prior.

"This is a reflection of, amongst other things, the discrimination that exists in the Israeli education system," says Dr. Yoav Cohen who directs the evaluation center.

Cohen is of the opinion that the disparity is not coincidental: "The discrepancy between the Psychometric averages doesn't stem from cultural gaps in the test itself, but rather from the gaps within the education system and the differences in what the country invests (in different sectors) starting all the way from primary education."

Reliable measure?

The Psychometric exam – which can be taken in Hebrew, Arabic, Russian, English, French and Spanish – has long been factored into the considerations of universities and various other higher education institutions upon deciding which applicants to admit.

The exam is considered – at least in the eyes of university administrations – as a reliable and equal measure which reflects the level of those taking it as the questions are based on knowledge of one's mother-tongue, mathematic abilities and control of the English language. The center in turn says it found that people who come from schools where the education ministry invested more in will naturally score higher on their Psychometric tests.

Dr. Cohen emphasized however that the Psychometric exam actually benefits those living in outlaying areas by offering virtually unlimited retakes. "Students without a high school diploma, or with low high school grades, get a chance to significantly improve their chances of getting a higher education because of the Psychometric exam. They can retake it and the highest score they earn is the one they apply with."

The Education Ministry is aware of the Jewish-Arab divide and has formulated a five-year plan to narrow the gap. The Ministry said that within the framework of the plan, the government would invest NIS 50 million in the Arab and Bedouin sectors every year.

The ministry also said that Arab schools were being given top priority in the establishment of new laboratories and computer equipment.

Education Minister Yuli Tamir (Labor): "There's no doubt that the Psychometric exam isn't culturally neutral and there exists and gap between the Psychometric score and the abilities of the students. Evidence of this was apparent when they tried to admit students based on their high school grades – an experiment which proved successful."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arabs; gaps; jews; neocons; tests
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1 posted on 11/21/2006 12:11:39 PM PST by Alouette
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2 posted on 11/21/2006 12:12:22 PM PST by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 145-150)
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Sounds vaguely familiar. If the right ethnic group is not doing well on the test, then the test must be bad...........where, oh where, have we heard that before?.......


3 posted on 11/21/2006 12:14:19 PM PST by Red Badger (New! HeadOn Hemorrhoid Medication for Liberals!.........Apply directly to forehead.........)
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To: Alouette
"This is a reflection of, amongst other things, the discrimination that exists in the Israeli education system," says Dr. Yoav Cohen who directs the evaluation center.

The Nobel Prize Committee is also discriminatory in that it has awarded some 180+ Prizes to Jews and only 4 to Arabs (including at least one terrorist, Yasser Arafat.)

Those wily Jews, they're only smarter because they discriminate better....wait....

4 posted on 11/21/2006 12:15:25 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Osama Wins!)
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To: Alouette
There's no doubt that the Psychometric exam isn't culturally neutral and there exists and gap between the Psychometric score and the abilities of the students.

No doubt there is a gap--the Arab students score far higher at suicide bomb making.

5 posted on 11/21/2006 12:16:53 PM PST by libstripper (!!)
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To: Alouette

And why can't the obverse test of Jews in Arab lands take place?

(Oh yeah, they've been ethnically cleansed....)


6 posted on 11/21/2006 12:17:40 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (Osama Wins!)
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To: Alouette

Is there a psychometric test written in Arabic in Egypt, say, by and for Egyptians? If they were interested, they could translate it into different languages, administer it in Israel and see where the differences lie in performance.


7 posted on 11/21/2006 12:18:56 PM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Alouette
"This is a reflection of, amongst other things, the discrimination that exists in the Israeli education system,"

BS, it's the Arabs don't have the mental capacity to cognitive reasoning because they allow distortions and distractions to come before evidentiary knowledge.
8 posted on 11/21/2006 12:19:47 PM PST by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Alouette
I wonder how Freepers would do?

http://www.funeducation.com/products/iqtest/
9 posted on 11/21/2006 12:22:36 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Alouette
The Psychometric exam discriminates against Muslims. An increasing number of Muslims are not attending college because more are becoming suicide/homicide bombers. Those remaining are too young to answer the questions. They are in pursuit of something higher but it isn't education.

The questions themselves are not structured for Muslims. For example one math question could be how many sticks of dynamite does one terrorist need to blow up a roomful of people?

Obviously more sensitivity and political correctness towards terrorists needs to factored into this type of exam.
10 posted on 11/21/2006 12:25:02 PM PST by Man50D (Fair Tax , you earn it , you keep it!)
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To: Alouette

There are nonverbal ability tests such as Raven's Matrixes, to which it is impossible to allege cultural bias.

You'd think that people such as those quoted in the article would first want to see what the outcomes are on a test like Raven's. Because if the results are similar, it is very hard to claim that their test is culturally biased.

Of course, there is never any interest in such a comparison. Liberals prefer to accuse society of discrimination rather than collect objective facts.


11 posted on 11/21/2006 12:26:14 PM PST by freespirited (The MSM is the root of all evil.)
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To: Red Badger
Sounds vaguely familiar. If the right ethnic group is not doing well on the test, then the test must be bad...........where, oh where, have we heard that before?.......

It's unfair to quiz members of outgroups about the cultures that discriminate against them. Now, a fair test would ask questions about things that Arab culture understands, like how to make explosives.

12 posted on 11/21/2006 12:26:55 PM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Ve'elleh toledot Yitzchaq Ben 'Avraham; 'Avraham holid 'et Yitzchaq.)
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To: Man50D

I suspect the scores would have a higher spread if Dr. Cohen's children weren't weighing down the bottom tail of the Jew bell curve.


13 posted on 11/21/2006 12:27:55 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Lezahal)
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To: Alouette

How many Arabs have won a Nobel prize in any subject?


14 posted on 11/21/2006 12:33:35 PM PST by zek157
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To: Brad Cloven

Arafat doesn't count. Jimmy C doesn't either.


15 posted on 11/21/2006 12:34:26 PM PST by zek157
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To: Alouette
...Arab average standing at 469 and the Jewish one at 563...

Well it's a bad psycho test if it doesn't give arabs the worst possible score, in this case a zero.

16 posted on 11/21/2006 12:37:00 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: Alouette

What is the correct answer?
2+2=?
1. 5
2. 7
3. 4
4. Kill the infidel!


17 posted on 11/21/2006 12:38:03 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Alouette

Eeeew! Stereotyping! Profiling! No! No! No! Evil, irrelevant, and utterly useless! Next thing you know, the same sorts of studies will be applied to all races and ethnicities across the board, we'll all become victims of the truth, and... it's common knowledge in this PC age that the truth is to be avoided or explained away at all costs!


18 posted on 11/21/2006 12:42:22 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: Alouette

 "The discrepancy between the Psychometric averages doesn't stem from cultural gaps in the test itself, but rather from the gaps within the education system and the differences in what the country invests (in different sectors) starting all the way from primary education."

You point the finger in the wrong direction, Dr. Cohen. 

As a teenager in Israel, I took the Psychometric Exam, and it's very heavily culturally slanted against the arab student.  In fact, on the version I took, of 125 questions the answer to only two was "kill the infidel".

Owl_Eagle

If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.


19 posted on 11/21/2006 12:46:28 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Alouette

"This is a reflection of, amongst other things, the discrimination that exists in the Israeli education system..."

No, it is a reflection of the fact that many Arabs encourage their best and brightest to become suicide bombers instead of scholars.


20 posted on 11/21/2006 12:48:52 PM PST by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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