Posted on 11/21/2006 12:07:21 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
Protesting mothers breastfeed their babies at Washington DC's Ronald Reagan National Airport in front of the Delta Airlines ticket counter as part of a nation-wide protest after a woman was kicked off a Delta airplane by a flight attendant for nursing her child.(AFP/Paul J. Richards)
Mothers Danielle Shield (L) and Alison Yaker (R) read a book about breastfeeding with their children near the Delta Airlines counter at Logan Airport in Boston, Massachusetts November 21, 2006 as part of a national 'Nurse-In' protest in support of women's right to breastfeed in public. On October 13, 2006 Emily Gillette was removed from a Delta/Freedom Air flight out of Burlington, Vermont after she refused to cover her baby with a blanket while breastfeeding on the plane before take-off. REUTERS/Brian Snyder (UNITED STATES)
Danielle Mountford, left, of Woodstock, Conn., breast feeds her daughter, Alexa Ross, 2 1/2, as Susan Parker, right, of Glastonbury, Conn., holds her daughter Anna, at Bradley International Airport in Windsor Locks, Conn., Tuesday, Nov. 21, 2006. Nursing mothers staged 'nurse-in' protests Tuesday to take up the cause of a woman ordered off a plane for breast-feeding her daughter too openly. (AP Photo/Jessica Hill)
You helpfully did my homework for me: "the captain of the flight apologized to the passenger and her family and 'immediately requested that they be re-boarded for their flight....'"
Sticks and stones are all very well, cowpie, but plain facts hurt you even more.
What a great gesture. Thank you. I appreciate your note and I really wasn't trying to come across as mad. I was trying to be a voice for discretion. I was amazed at how that position opened me up for attacked. It was enlightening to say the least.
Your posts were not one of those with an attack tone, though. Thanks again. Have a great Thanksgiving.
Did you by chance read the entire thread? You don't have to force a baby to do something instinctive and the suck reflex is the,,,
forget it,,,,the argument is about discretion,,,which apparently is just totally lost here.
You might let the pygmy chicken out if you do that.
If the kid is old enough/big enough to unlatch the mothers bra, maybe it's time to stop brestfeeding?
"In a country where we show the most disgusting and bloodiest movies to our young public, where we show people in war dying, dead and mutilated, where people are not upset at pictures of our flag being burned it's hard to believe that people are so upset by the natural act of a woman breastfeeding her child."
I am not a huge fan of the "well things are so bad anyway, we might as well lose any civility and decency" argument.
Indeed, the fact that the world has devolved into chaos gives me all the more reason to act with decency and respect.
That said, I don't care about public breast feeding, if done discretly and some decorum. (As in, use common courtesy and don't flop around any more than necessary.)
Uh, sorry r9, but your "poor mother" and her husband say that never happened. Who do you think is lying?
I know the hard questions bother you, but make an effort now.
No idea. Clearly there are different versions. One from the folks who are suing -- who have an obvious interest in saying the pilot did no such thing; and one from the folks who are being sued -- who have an obvious interest to the contrary.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. She says only that the pilot never asked them to re-board, so one gets the impression that he at least apologized.
So clearly r9, it's a case of "he said, she said" and your assertion that the captain apologized is unfounded in light of this and therefore holds no water.
Please try to get some cement into the foundation of your comments. You could've fixed that by just adding "the captain IS SAID TO HAVE APOLOGIZED but that is disputed"
But let's be real here and do a little detective work: these people have already been waiting for three hours with a baby. The captain tells them "Sorry folks, and please, stay on the plane" but hey say "No, we'd rather haul to some unknown hotel and wait it out here another day or two."
Hmmmmmm....doesn't sound right does it? OTOH, it does sound right if Mrs. I-don't-have-to-listen-to-you-it's-my-jumbo-jet rigged the whole thing.
Oh, yes. I'm sure that's JUST what happened.
"Say, Jerry -- what say we take the kid on down to the airport and see if we can get kicked off a plane for breast feeding in public! Just to be sure, I will egregiously flaunt my nipple to ensure maximum effect." (/rolling eyes)
Well r9, they certainly whistled for a lawyer and were the impetus behind mass protests in short order, wouldn't you say?
I mean, we're only talking about suing a major airline involved in a multi-billion dollar merger right at this moment. I realize that America being the land of the lawsuit might be a leap for you, but I've seen it firsthand in corporations I've worked for.
And the woman is clearly a jerk. If a flight attendant asked me to put my shoes back on, cover my exposed belly button, stop snoring loudly, etc, I would do it. Whatever this couple's motivation, they're jerks.
But hey, they got a major airline in the sights and will certainly make out like bandits in the settlement!! Pathetic.
So you're still only bothered by the woman and her breasts. Pathetic, but consistent.
Nope. As usual, you've got it all wrong. I'm bothered by the woman's attitude.
Look, I've flown for years. I've seen people take their shoes off and recline and stick their feet literally right on the armrest of the seat forward them. I've had people repeatedly kick the back of the seat my then-girlfriend was in. I've seen people with headphones on that were so loud half the plane could hear. On trips to Puerto Rico during Christmas I've seen travelers with so many gifts they were in the aisles. Flight attendants come in all shapes and sizes. Some will tolerate, some will not. Some just don't want to be bothered. But either way, you have to listen to what they ask you to do and this woman did not and I guess neither would you.
Was her baby not going to get fed? Of course not! Were they asking her to feed the baby formula (which I'm sure they would've provided) in lieu of breast milk? Of course not! They simply said please cover that with this little towel and this idiot (and her husband) threw hissy fits.
They sound like total jerkoffs. But...then again....it's Delta's lawyers who are going to be sitting in the defendant's seat at court, and these two jerkoffs sitting in the plaintiff's seat. How much do you think this stupid incident is going to cost Delta? Two million? Three million? Four million? Who do you think is going to pay for that? The employees at Delta and the customers, who will have to pay higher ticket prices in order to feed Deltas lawyers.
But this is just fine and dandy with you though, right? I mean, we should be able to tell flight attendants to shove it and do whatever we want on planes right? Or else we sue the airline, right?
Again, pathetic.
You're a fine one to talk about other people's hissy fits.
I think you missed the original story. The flight attendant didn't ask her to cover her breast (which wasn't exposed.) She wanted her to put the blanket over her baby's head.
Personally, I would have accepted the blanket, said "Thank you very much," and put it under my baby's bottom. However, she merely declined it. The flight attendant's response (putting her off the flight) was un-called-for, which the airline itself acknowledged by apologizing to the couple and discipining the FA.
This information is for the benefit of those who are interested in an accurate story, rather than just another opportunity to demean and ridicule nursing mothers.
I think you missed the original story. The flight attendant didn't ask her to cover her breast (which wasn't exposed.) She wanted her to put the blanket over her baby's head.
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