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Hair of Sikh cut in racist attack in UK
The Times of India ^ | 16 Nov 2006 | The Times of India

Posted on 11/15/2006 9:40:24 PM PST by CarrotAndStick

LONDON: In a case of racial assault, a group of white youths attacked a Sikh teenager and clipped his hair in a public park in the Scottish capital Edinburgh.

The 15-year-old, who has not been named, was attacked by four youths in Pilrig Park on Tuesday evening in what police have described as an unprovoked and sustained assault.

He was initially subjected to racist verbal abuse from the gang, police said, before being knocked to the ground. When the teenager's turban came off, the gang cut his hair - an act considered highly offensive to the Sikh community.

"At around 7.30pm on Tuesday evening, the 15-year-old victim entered Pilrig Park via Balfour Place, Edinburgh where he was initially subjected to verbal racial abuse from a group of four young white males who were standing near to Pilrig Primary School," a police spokesman said.

"The victim for no apparent reason was thereafter set upon by the group, who violently punched and kicked him to the ground. The young victim has clearly been terrorized by the actions of these males," the spokesman said.

"The persons responsible for this attack made off across Pilrig Park, exiting into Pilrig Street, where they then ran off in the direction of Leith Walk," the spokesman said.

Police said although the teenager did not need hospital treatment, he was left terrified by the attack. "This was an extremely distressing attack on a young member of our community, who has been left traumatised by this incident," the spokesman said.

The four suspects are thought to be around 16 years old.


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KEYWORDS: india; islam; punjab; sikh; uk
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To: TheMole

If true, then that kid is really Sikh.


21 posted on 11/15/2006 10:27:40 PM PST by Vinny (You can't compromise with evil.)
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To: TheMole
Sikh youth hair attack 'victim' admits hoax

It's not related to the main article, right?

22 posted on 11/15/2006 10:29:14 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Mike Darancette

They were probably White Muslim youths, but only "white" was used to hide that little detail.

Most Christian "whites" know that Sihks and Hindu's aren't the problem immigrants, in fact they have blended well into the UK or a long time now.
There's something fishy about this story.


23 posted on 11/15/2006 10:33:06 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: CarrotAndStick

I thought that Sikhs were good guys?


24 posted on 11/15/2006 10:34:00 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6

The Mughals harrassed the Hindus and Sikhs, and this was a major reason for them turning into a militia. There's lots of information on it in the internet.


25 posted on 11/15/2006 10:35:56 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: diamond6

Mughals = Muslims, BTW.


26 posted on 11/15/2006 10:36:14 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: diamond6
Guru Gobind Singh (also sometimes transliterated as 'Govind'), played a monumental part in the development of the Sikh faith. His 5 K's and taking up arms against the Mughals created a warrior clan that was visibly different and helped evolve Sikhism from a clan to a religion. The First Guru was Guru Nanak Dev, the founder of Sikhism.

Guru Gobind Singh exemplified the teachings of Sikh principles during his lifetime. He not only taught the principles of the faith, but also felt the pain of sacrifice in upholding those beliefs. Guru Gobind Singh lost his father, mother and all four sons to a religious war being waged by emperor Aurangzeb, the last of the six grand Mughals. Aurangzeb demanded that all Sikhs either convert to Islam or be killed. It was in this fight for spiritual survival (or as Guru Sahib himself called it, Dharamyudh, the war for righteousness) that Guru Gobind Singh felt the pain of loss.

Guru Gobind's father, Guru Teg Bahadur, was beheaded in Delhi (where the Gurdwara Sis Ganj Sahib stands today) on the orders of Aurangzeb for refusing to convert to Islam. Guru Gobind Singh's two elder sons, Sahibzada Ajit Singh and Sahibzada Jujhar Singh, died fighting Mughal troops at Chamkaur Sahib. His mother Mata Gujri was killed along with his younger sons Sahibzada Zorawar Singh and Sahibzada Fateh Singh for refusing to convert to Islam.


27 posted on 11/15/2006 10:39:52 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: diamond6
Guru Teg Bahadur became guru in 1665 and led the Sikhs until 1675. Teg Bahadur was executed by Aurangzeb for helping to protect Hindus, after a delegation of Kashmiri Pandits came to him for help when the Emperor condemned them to death for failing to convert to Islam.

He was succeeded by his son, Gobind Rai who was just nine years old at the time of his father's death. Gobind Rai further militarised his followers, and was baptised by the Panjj Piara (Beloved Five) when he formed the Khalsa (Militia against the Islamist forces of the Mughals) in 1699. From here on in he was known as Guru Gobind Singh.

28 posted on 11/15/2006 10:42:49 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Not to use Tobacco or other intoxicants (e.g., alcohol). Not eat meat--this includes Halal or Kosher Meat -

You don't see many Sihks following many of those rules, at least not any of the ones I know. The guy who runs the local garage drinks like a fish, is always bugging me for deer meat, is a typical male when it comes to women, will never turn down an offer to get a drink and watch the strippers, smokes, Yet he is very involved in his temple, which I have been invited to several times, ( they have a great smorg in the basement after the service) Thre are many different Sihk secs, and some of them aren't very nice.

29 posted on 11/15/2006 10:43:27 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: diamond6

In India, some families have Sikh and Hindu members, together.


30 posted on 11/15/2006 10:44:25 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Yea, they hav their extremists also...remember the Indian prime minister who was assassinated by two of them?

There are many cults within Sikhism too.


31 posted on 11/15/2006 10:49:20 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: diamond6
"I thought that Sikhs were good guys?"

Not all of them are. There are some secs that think they are some kind of muslim, and aren't very nice at all. The Sihk religion, origionally a spin off from Hinduism, appeared fairly recently as far as religions go, around 600 years ago, and have since branched off into many different secs. Some as mentioned, aren't very nice, think they are some kind of Muslims, and have no problem killing Hindus in parts of Paki- Stan and India. Ironically, muslims don't think they are any kind of muslim, and have no problem killing them from time to time when muslims get into their killing moods. It's a screwed up part of the world,the Pakistan/india region, thats for sure. And it was made that way from centuries of bloodshred caused by muslims, forced conversions, inter-marriages, tribal re- aliegnments, etc. It takes a lot of studing to figure out who's who in that part of the world.

32 posted on 11/15/2006 10:56:22 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: CarrotAndStick

Those Tamil Tigers are some sort of Sihk sec as well. They are cuthroats, terrorists in their own right, fighting for some kind of independance in India and Shri Lanka.


33 posted on 11/15/2006 11:02:23 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
they have a great smorg in the basement after the service)

As in smörgåsbord?? The Sikhs are eating smörgåsbord??!! I love how cultures mix and we get something new from the blend.

34 posted on 11/15/2006 11:06:22 PM PST by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: Nathan Zachary

No! Tamil Tigers aren't Sikh! They are ethnic Tamils from Sri Lanka, who want a separate homeland on that island, not in India. They are nominally Hindu, but most are atheists.

http://www.ipcs.org/Terrorism_kashmirLevel2.jsp?action=showView&kValue=674&subCatID=1022&status=article&mod=g

"The LTTE is officially atheist and the cadre, being Hindus, believe in reincarnation of the soul. The LTTE ideologue Anton Balasingham made a speech in Jaffna (Sri Lanka) in November 1995, claiming that "karma" was the reason for the untimely and unnatural deaths of Sinhala leaders who had "tormented the Tamils."


35 posted on 11/15/2006 11:09:07 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Tamar1973

Some Indian food is very good. There is a lot of vegetarian-ism(?) among all the various religions, I think it's more of a tribal-regional preference than a religious one.
Goat, lamb, chicken, duck, goose and venison and dried fish are all commonly found in Indian dishes. They do eat a lot of veggies though, even if they are meat eaters, thats because veggies grow abundantly and in a huge varieties in much of India. The spices take some getting used to, so be careful.


36 posted on 11/15/2006 11:12:23 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: CarrotAndStick

I don't think you are right. Tamil Tigers wear turbans and cary kirpins the same as Sihks, and are present in India as well as Shri Lanka. I guess they are trouble where ever they go.
Sometimes you will see them on Collage Campus's trying to raise money (which is illegal) and they run like hell when you confront them about it.

There may well be some ethnic "Tamilese" in the movement, but, Tamil Tigers itelf is a religious group or rather, a terrorist group parading around as a religious group, and dress in traditional Sihk garb or very simular.
Are they legit? probably not. Just another spin off sec. They pop up overnight in that part of the world.


37 posted on 11/15/2006 11:26:55 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary

No! I'm pretty sure about the Tamil Tigers. They don't wear turbans or carry kirpans. Guns, maybe, but not kirpans.

Tamils are presently in India and Sri Lanka. But there isn't any Tamil problem in India. It's only in Sri Lanka.


38 posted on 11/15/2006 11:35:21 PM PST by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

It could also be that many of the children they kidnap and "recruit" (force) to fight in their war are Hindu's and Sihks so naturally they bring their customs along with them, and it gets blended with the movement.
Tamil Tigers use intimidation and threats to pressure local families in the north and east of Sri Lanka to provide sons and daughters for military service. When families refuse, their children are sometimes abducted from their homes at night or forcibly recruited while walking to school. Parents who resist the recruitment of their children face retribution from the Tamil Tigers, including violence or detention.

Nasty bunch.


39 posted on 11/15/2006 11:40:47 PM PST by Nathan Zachary
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To: CarrotAndStick

The Tamil people are originally of southern India Numbering about 57,000,000 in the late 20th century (including about 3,200,000 speakers in northern and eastern Sri Lanka). Tamil is the official language of the state of Tamil Nadu (Madras). Other Tamil speakers live in Sri Lanka, Myanmar (Burma), Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, eastern Africa, South Africa, and Guyana.

Tamil Tigers- a guerrilla organization that seeks to establish an independent Tamil state, Eelam, in northern and eastern Sri Lanka. (Encyclopedia britannica)


To say that the Tamil tigers are not Sihks or Hindus, (or Buddists) would be wrong. They are what ever the local majority is in the region.

In this area, southern India and Sri Lanka, they are either Sihk or Hindu, or possibly Buddists.

This is probably why they give the apppearance of being a religious group, because of they way they dress, which would be in keeping with their local beliefs.

The guy I chased a couple years ago (He was asking for donations in the park where I happened to be watching a millitary event) was dressed in traditional sihk garb.


40 posted on 11/16/2006 12:33:57 AM PST by Nathan Zachary
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