Count Me In The Guiliani Camp (Debbie Schlussel: He Has The Cojones TO Fight Islamofascism Alert)

Debbie Schlussel.com ^ | 08/15/2006 | Debbie Schlussel

[beaversmom]

I wrote much the same the other day. Right now, Rudy looks like the best choice and unless that changes, he's my early favorite out of the supposedlies. It's not the lesser of two evils--it's the best candidate out of two choices. If he gets the nomination, I'll support him all the way.

[goldstategop]

I see the debate in our party is going to be a healthy one. Whoever gets the nod is going to have to tell the base and the American people how he will make America more secure.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[tobyhill]

Do you think having a pro-abortion stance is evil?

[mrsmith]

"In the other party, whoever is nominated will continue to sound the tocsin of retreat. "

What an incredible fantasy.

Hillary, or any Dem, will run as a strong fighter against terrorism.
The media will protray them as such too.

Everyone except you knows that the media will rally the public around them in that fight. There will be no negative stories of defeats and mistakes. Domestic morale will be kept high until the fight is won or a Republican takes the presidency.

No Republican would have a propaganda arm in the war, at least not one on our side.
Make the election about fear and you elect Hillary.

[goldstategop]

By New York standards, he's a right-winger. But yeah with the rest of the country, he's too liberal. New York City has a predominantly Democratic and very liberal electorate. America is a completely different political marketplace as well as the Republican Party. Any presidential aspirant has to be cognizant of this reality.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[RichardW]

I don't get these Giuliani bashers. I can find no other conclusion but that they are secretly working for Hillary Clinton's campaign. Do we really know what their actual political views are? The DU might be here planting all of these anti-Giuliani posts because he is the one candidate that they are terrified of running against.

Either that or they believe Hillary is a closet conservative.

[TankerKC]

We don't deserve a president who will defend our country.

[Alberta's Child]

You can't have it both ways, fella.

He can't be the "most electable" candidate in 2008 if you are holding him up as the best candidate to deal with an issue -- at the expense of all other issues, mind you -- that isn't even among the most important issues in the minds of most voters.

The logic here is completely flawed. The statement "Rudy Giuliani is the best candidate in 2008 because the War on Terror is Issue #1 and he's the right guy for it" is based on the presumptuous notions that: 1) the War on Terror is going to be Issue #1 in 2008 (I've already presented a good argument that it won't be), and 2) he's the right guy for that job (which may be true, but there is no solid evidence anywhere that this is the case).

[Madeleine Ward]

I don't have a problem with his personal views, and as long as he doesn't try to nationalize them, commits to nominating judges are constitutionalists, and is committed to decreasing the Federal Government, I don't have a problem with him. That's a mouthful. If he's just Joe Liebermann with an R by his name, not interested.

[Xenalyte]

Count Me In The Guiliani Camp

If Miss Schlussel is that fond of him, learning the correct spelling of his surname would be a great start.

[Brian Allen]

<< By New York standards, he's a right-winger. But yeah with the rest of the country, he's too liberal. >>

Poor Rudy -- and his followers -- just do not get it that if America has to chose between a big-D... "Democrat" and a RINO (AKA a little-d... "democrat") it will, every darned time -- always has and always will -- vote for the real McCoy.

Mr Reagan got and maybe Newt Gingrich does. But they're about the only ones.

[Alberta's Child]

The Democrats are afraid of Rudy Giuliani for all the reasons conservatives don't like him -- mainly that they have a very flawed candidate and that the Republicans stand a good chance of winning because he mirrors the Democrats on so many of their pet issues.

I can see why Rudy Giuliani would be attractive to Republicans -- especially those in the Northeast. What I can't understand is why he has any appeal at all to conservatives.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

The first job of the President is to defend our countries from its enemies. We're still at war. Nothing has changed even though we just lost Congress. The issue of national security will be #1 in 2008.

Indeed !!!

[tobyhill]

I guess you don't understand what Christan Conservatism means? We're on the verge of divorcing the GOP because we should not have to be asked to sacrifice a fundamental belief of pro-life because of the "lesser of two evils" game. We just won't vote if that's the game. Rudy maybe a nice guy but pro-abortion is one hurdle that Christan Conservatives will have a hard time leaping over.

[RichardW]

All politicians have their faults. But they pale when talking about terrorism. I want a real man who is not afraid of his own shadow or who betrays his pledge to protect America like Clinton did. Now we are going to install his enabler? Not in my book. Not as long as I have breath in my body. I don't give a damn about his other views because he isn't going to grab our guns. But Hillary will. She is a dyed in the wool socialist who wants to turn us into Europe on the North American Continent. No thanks!

[sgbnsgt21793]

"We need another Truman, who will end the War on Terror with just a few well placed bombs."

We'd vote for the one that dropped the bomb and get the one that releived McArthur.

First & foremost we need someone that is electable. You can have all the virtue you want, but if that gets a Dem in the WH what good does it do us? Better half a loaf than none.

[goldstategop]

I think its because of his forth-rightness and candor on national security. You're right in that if the WOT is still not #1 by 2008, this thread will just be a historical artifact. None of us can see that far in the future. And a lot of us where sure the "six year itch" was history and look what happened. So if things do turn out different, Rudy was just a flash in the pan.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

[Gideon Reader]

You seem to be a nice and decent person. Ergo I respect your choice of candidate.

However, I am not particularly interested in Democrat Lite.
Anyone can find common ground with someone, on some issue, and there are several I agree with the former NYC Mayor on.

But there needs to be a clear and clean demarcation between the parties and what their world view and general philosophy of government is.

I prefer a presidential candidate respect the entire constitution and of it's amendments, rather than politically cherry picking prefered elements.

I want a candidate that is as strongly for the Second Amendment as he is for the First.
A conservative please, or why bother to have two political philosophies and two parties?

[TitansAFC]

I for one refuse to believe that Rudy Giuliani is the only Republican in America who will fight the war on terror.

Rudy backers seem to want us to believe this.

If they are right, we're doomed.

[Capt. Tom]

Which one is it going to be?