Count Me In The Guiliani Camp (Debbie Schlussel: He Has The Cojones TO Fight Islamofascism Alert)

Debbie Schlussel.com ^ | 08/15/2006 | Debbie Schlussel

[goldstategop]

Every day, I'm asked whom I'm supporting for President in 2008. I've looked over the potential candidates, and on the Republican side, I believe the best, by far, is Rudy Giuliani, who took the first step toward a run, yesterday, with an exploratory committee.

(On the Democratic side, the best guy who's been talked about as a Presidential contender is Senator Evan Bayh from Indiana, who truly understands the Islamic threat and is a more moderate Democrat--which is why he'll never get the nomination.)

Yes, I'm pro-life and against gay rights, where Giuliani shares neither of my views on these issues. But, to me, the terrorism issue is far more important, #1 on the list. Right now, we have a President who is pro-life, against gay rights, and pretends to be the "Counterterrorism Prez." But, actually, he's done nothing substantive on any of these issues.

Rudy Giuliani: Then-NYC Mayor Had Guts to Stop Yasser Arafat's Stateside Escapades

So, I'll take the guy who I know will have the guts to do what Bush does not. I believe Giuliani is that man. He's proven that time and again, whether it was when he told terror-supporting Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal to take his $10 million and shove it (right after 9/11) or when he severely restricted Yasser Arafat's travel in New York (kicking him out of a concert).

A man who will do those things vs. Bush PC on Islam is the man we need to run this country. He's probably also the man who can handle the illegal alien problem and actually see to it that something is done about it. Not sure on his position on guest workers, but we'll soon enough find out.

It will be a difficult matter for a pro-choice, pro-gay rights candidate (and, again, I oppose Giuliani on these issues) to get the GOP nomination. We'll see.

So for those who want to know who I'm supporting for Prez, I say, "Viva Rudy." America's Mayor has what it takes to be America's President.

Gutsy Giuliani Tells Saudi Prince Alwaleed Where to Go

[George W. Bush]

I think its because of his forth-rightness and candor on national security.

He would improve his chances with me (currently very opposed on his liberalism) if he would come out and say Bush is wrong, that Islam is not a Religion Of Peace, that we must expel all radical Islamic clerics and close all mosques that provide literature that promotes terrorism and conquest.

Have him actually do or say something tough on terrorism and then we can talk. Snubbing a Saudi prince for $10 million when the feds were throwing billions at him isn't actually impressive. Neither is embarassing Arafat. He should have arrested Arafat and had him prosecuted for terrorism.

I don't see why all you Rudy cheerleaders think he's so tough on terrorism.

[RichardW]

You'd be surprised what we can do without Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson calling the shots.

[Alberta's Child]

What exactly did Rudy Giuliani do on 9/11 that warrants all of this hero-worship?

[unspun]

Excuse me but while defending America from without, we also need to strive for a morally defensible America that does not herself condone and promote mass murder of the unborn.

[George W. Bush]

If the candidate will keep the country safe, appoint conservative judges, respect that status quo on social issues, and so forth...

You're just pulling this stuff out of your butt.

He hasn't promised us conservative judges. He's praised the most liberal justices on the Court. He's made no promise on some 'status quo' at all.

What a pant load these Rudy fantasies are. It's as dumb as all those nutty Condi threads were.

[TET1968]

"No, thank you. I would like a conservative for president."

Yeah, well " People in hell want Ice water".

I think this will be about give and take....

[F.J. Mitchell]

Sorry folks, but Guialiani's stance against Muslim terrorists that have slaughtered thousands,worldwide, while standing squarely behind pro-abortionists that have legally slaughtered 50 million American babies, right here in the good old USA, defines him as a heartless, conscienceless, immoral, sonovabitch, in my opinion.

[RichardW]

"What exactly did Rudy Giuliani do on 9/11 that warrants all of this hero-worship?"

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He became the premier "leader" during that period of time. Just like FDR in WWII. FDR had his detractors as well prior to that time. But FDR stood up with his polio and told it like it was and the American people of all political stripes rallied behind him. We need a man like that today. No more mealy mouthing and backing and filling. I want someone to look the American people in the eye and tell it like it is. We are in a race for our survival as a civilization. It is that serious and that simple. It is either them or us and I prefer us.

[unspun]

You'd be surprised what we can do without Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson calling the shots.

In addition to the question just posted about why Giuliani requires our worship, please point out just how Falwell and Robertson have "called any shots" at all. For a poster (poser?) in FR, you seem to be very willing to believe the liberal media.

No pro-mass-murder presidents.

[bonfire]

Well said.

[unspun]

1. What has Giullani said that the President, Newt Gingrich, etc. haven't?

2. You presume Giulliani's America is civilized. They made the same kind of mistake in Germany in the 30's. (And yes, I'm equating mass abortion with other mass murder.)

[Nancee]

"We need a President with the cojones to take on Islamofascism...."

But surely Rudy is not the only would-be candidate with the above noted qualifications. Though I very much like a lot of what he is and stands for, I still think Lynn Cheney and Rick Santorum are far better bets!

Nancee

[supremedoctrine]

Truly, I don't consider the social issues as important as the terrorism issue---perhaps one or two other Repub hopefuls could be expected to be harder on, and more vigilant toward whatever Islamic bad guys are living here: THAT is the area that urgently needs cleaning and clearing up. We would all breathe easier with a more aggressive stance taken toward budding terrorists and their political advance-men and go-betweens and apologists llike CAIR and the ACLU. TO ME that is of paramount importance. Rudy, or WHOMEVER, MUST be made to understand that THAT is why he is being voted for, and he had better live up to those expectations, or we are set for another four year merry-gop-round of frustration where we have to hear from our "helpful" elected officials that we "WILL" be hit again, it is just a matter of "WHEN". positively the most blood-boiling moments we have been given since 9-11 have been these feckless, helpless statements from a government that failed prior to 9-11 to protect us and continues to offer less than convincing assurance that we ARE protected.
---AND YES ----"merry-gop-round" was a typo, but as Freudian slips go, it was a great one, so I am leaving it in. ( I guess that is where the freudian slip meets incipient carpal tunnel syndrome)

[George W. Bush]

Well if the GOP is so hamstrung by these concerns then perhaps we need a new party that harkens back to the principles of our founders.

Fine. But no one would let Giuliani in it.

The Republicans weren't even formed until 1856.

Not sure why this is relevant. But, by all means, form a new party and make Rudy the head of it.

Maybe the party has run its course if these anti-Giuliani types can't come to grip with reality. I still believe they must have this secret desire to see Hillary become president.

For conservatives, he is Hillary. On some issues, he's to her Left. His personal life is messier with an ugly divorce less than five years in his past in '08. And then there's his gay 'mother' thing with those two gay guys.

Remember what happened in 1992. They voted for Perot and got Clinton. Talk about cutting off their nose to spite their face. Well, they might be about to do it again. No thank you. I'm having none of it.

You're the ones who'll get Hillary elected. Put up two carbon-copy libs and the real thing (Hillary) wins. Every time.

I'm enjoying these Rudy threads from the NY press. They're just gonna love love love him. Until he gets the nomination and then they'll totally trash him. They have a plan. And people like you are very useful to them. For now.

[RichardW]

Falwell and Robertson put Bush into the WH. That South Carolina business was disgraceful and hardly "Christian."

I'm tired of the holier than thou posturing that says only a pure man of the cloth is fit to be president. That is nonsense. Hardly a day goes by but that one of these guys gets caught with some prostitute or making a tearful confession. I've had a bellyfull of that stuff. I want a proven leader.

[Alberta's Child]

Rudy Giuliani became the "premier leader" for no reason other than the media spotlight. Nothing he did on 9/11 -- or before then, or since then -- amounts to anything more than superficial "leadership" in any way on this issue.

If the comparison to FDR is the best you've got, then you're basically casting your lot with a charismatic sock-puppet who really is no different than Bill Clinton.

I also find it comical when people claim that "we are in a race for our survival as a civilization" even as they support a political candidate who doesn't believe that -- propped up by a political establishment that doesn't believe it.

[trisham]

I still think Lynn Cheney and Rick Santorum are far better bets!

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I don't know about Santorum, but Cheney sure has a spine.

[HitmanLV]

Gotta admit, a candidates preferred status on FR isn't worth much, nor does it tell us much about how they would fare in general election.

FR-Preferred candidates lost a lot in 2006, to their eternal befuddlement.

[F.J. Mitchell]

After that little Good ol' Rudy rant, I must ask for a definition of just who in your opinion is us? It obvious that your "us" doesn't include the us who are not yet born.

[tobyhill]

Moral principles are not derived from Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson they are internal gifts from God just some people choose to refuse this gift. Rev Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson are teachers of how to understand and apply this gift we have received from God for those who haven't refused.