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A Question from a Webb Supporter
The Washington Post ^ | November 14, 2006 | John Whitesides

Posted on 11/14/2006 1:51:18 PM PST by DCBandita

The announcement by McCain, who has put together campaign organizations in many of the states with early nominating contests, was widely expected. The intentions of Giuliani, who has been less active in early organizing, had been less clear.

Giuliani's campaign team said the committee was simply an opening move designed to keep his options open, with a final decision still to come.

"This filing affords him the opportunity to raise money and put together an organization to assist him in making his decision," Giuliani adviser Anthony Carbonetti said.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism
KEYWORDS: conservatives; neocons; theocons; zot
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To: RedStateRocker

I love your tagline.


561 posted on 11/15/2006 4:21:19 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: DCBandita
." But I'd definitely repeal the cuts for the upper 2% as well as repeal the capital gains tax cut."

Even though it has created a booming economy and practically zero unemployment? Brilliant!

562 posted on 11/15/2006 4:23:42 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: beezdotcom

This conversation was interesting. It is even more interesting as to why this DC person spent so much time on this site trying to argue that republicans need move to the middle. Why wasn't this person on a Dem site trying to convince all those liberals to move to the middle. I think they would like to keep the GOP divide going, they used it in this election and they would love to keep it going for 2008. Best to tell them to Buzz off. And since when did they get nice and just want to talk?


563 posted on 11/15/2006 4:27:20 AM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: cinives
Bush and Rice believe in talk first, unfortunately, that seems to go on forever. After all, it took us 2 years of talk to invade Iraq.

I don't think thats the case. I think if left up to Bush, he would have fought the war in Iraq more agressively, but the constant moaning of the liberal weinies and the media about "torture", civilian casualties and infrastructure has forced him into this position. Can't damage their hovels, or torture them with air conditioning, you know.

564 posted on 11/15/2006 4:31:00 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: dpwiener
and permitting some restrictions on third-trimester abortions).

Third trimester abortions ARE partail birth abortions.

565 posted on 11/15/2006 4:36:43 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: roamer_1; DCBandita
Oh, well said! I recommend to everyone a book by David Gelertner entitled 1939: The Lost World of the Fair.

In it, the essayist (also known as a victim of the Unabomber) describes how things were socially in 1939. He makes the case that one could have placed boxes of dynamite in the center of a street in the Bronx, and no one would have touched them. That is exactly right.

When I was a little girl in the early sixties, before the great upheavel of the cultural revolution, as a fifth grader, age ten, I was allowed to go downtown with my friends on the bus. This was Indianapolis, not a small town. My younger sister made trips downtown from the suburbs by herself every month to get her braces adjusted by her orthodontist, whose office was there.

Now, in our wonderful progressive world, not only would I never allow my 10-year old grandson to make such a trip with his friends (because Lord knows who would abduct them), his mother stands out with my grandson and his sister every day as they wait for the schoolbus, in the suburbs; she is afraid of abduction by someone in a passing car.

So how have things improved? We have more gadgets, that's about all I see in the way of progress. As far as our human condition, I think we are decidedly worse off.

566 posted on 11/15/2006 4:38:54 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, thank you for Mozart Lover's son's safe return, and look after Jemian's son, please!)
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To: indylindy; Gaffer

Well, I see merit with your assessments of the motivations - but I think the response should be simply to either ignore them, or politely discuss. If they want to serve as a foil to help us continue to hone our logic, we should let them. If we behave, they can't "keep the GOP divide going" all on their own. (And, it should be called the CONSERVATIVE divide, anyway.)


567 posted on 11/15/2006 4:41:17 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: beezdotcom

Well, to some extent you are right, but remember libs keep peat and repeating their Oh so tolerant drivel over and over until people start to believe it. One of their tricks. I will now refer to it as conservative. But we as conservatives aren't divided. One logic is never, ever trust them. I don't, and it has always served me well.


568 posted on 11/15/2006 4:50:45 AM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: DCBandita
it's just that morality IS relative

It is in the liberal universe.

A liberal legislature or judge could easily decide on the basis of whatever shifting moral standard strikes them as convenient tomorrow that you ought to have your property confiscated, or perhaps that you should be put to death.

Legally, of course. And only for the most worthy socially progressive reasons.

569 posted on 11/15/2006 4:50:56 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: DCBandita
Or you wind up taking responsibility for them as the rate of bankrupcies parlays to negative savings rates and the foreclosures parlay to extreme homelessness. I'm not a fan of entitlements of any nature, but somehow I don't think families in the street are going to sit well with the American people.

You don't give much credit to the American people. Most of the American people are more motivated then to just lay around in the street if they find themselves homeless. Its usually temporary but they get back on their feet. Give them credit for having some motivation. I think government handouts have caused alot of homelessness. People who have been taken care of all their lives by parents or government just can't cut it on their own.

570 posted on 11/15/2006 4:58:19 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: DCBandita

I think there will be consideraqble support for Rudy among those here. Rudy took a broken New York and fixed it. The issues of gun control and abortion and divorce were insignificant in that process.

I for one think Times Square should not bear the name of the Old Gray Whore and should be renamed Rudy Square to acknowledge the savior of the city.


571 posted on 11/15/2006 5:03:34 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. Rozerem commercials give me nightmares)
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To: DCBandita
While I find your last statement eloquent, I don't see where society has been damaged by safe, legal abortion. I realize that it bothers many principled people and bothers them deeply, but I think that is separate from societal "damage", which is what you suggest.

I think it has damaged society in that it has cheapened life. It hardens peoples hearts to killing people like Terri Shiavo for convenience.

572 posted on 11/15/2006 5:04:01 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: DCBandita

And you have to admit, DC, that even though you have met with fierce resistance on most of your issues, this is a much more civil bunch without the "F" bomb every 5 words and much better at actually debating.


573 posted on 11/15/2006 5:16:35 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: indylindy

I agree with you. Tolerance become habit, habit becomes acceptance, and acceptance (of Liberal ideology) is pure brainwashing


574 posted on 11/15/2006 5:17:10 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: DCBandita
"I would wager that the pro-life set would be roundly unhappy with the outcome of submitting it to public referendum as those that feel abortion should be illegal are decidedly a minority."

I wouldn't bet on it. Thats why it is never put to the vote of the people. Cause it would lose big.

575 posted on 11/15/2006 5:26:37 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: streetpreacher

Bandita seems to be posting just fine as a democrat.


576 posted on 11/15/2006 5:29:33 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: Gaffer

I'm relatively new around here. Never even knew about this site until last year because I worked a lot. Late last year a doctor ruined my leg. During my recovery, I happened on to it looking for a conservative out there. I lurked awhile and decided I liked it. Lately, I've noticed a lot of libs hiding out. Some of them have used my mail to give me a hard time. They will do anything to get their lib point across. They are only pretend nice. Of course we are conservatives so we are supposed to be nice even when we are being attacked. Hogwash, I say!


577 posted on 11/15/2006 5:37:01 AM PST by dforest (Don't get fooled, the bigger struggle is still out there, and growing)
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To: DCBandita

So you weren't around durring the first 2 world wars and not much more than a child when the cold war ended. That explains to me why you don't reaaly comprehend the threat of radical islam.


578 posted on 11/15/2006 5:43:13 AM PST by beckysueb
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To: JCEccles
"The smart thing to do is to leave the money with the people who earned it. That way it is reinvested to create more jobs and more wealth. That in turn keeps unemployment low, productivity high, and shrinks the budget deficit--which is EXACTLY what has been happening over the past six years.

Start your own business and quit complaining that everyone else owes you a cut of their pie, parasite."

That is a reply after my own heart. You have nailed it, all these people who whine about the gap between the rich and the poor should channelize that energy and do something about it for their own life and then create jobs or businesses for others. The more employees we have in our country, the more dependent and "entitled" people become. The other issue is the "fixed pie" mentality which nearly 100% of liberals have which is why think it is unfair that one person makes more money than the other. The lack of economic education and understanding is one of the root causes of liberalism.
579 posted on 11/15/2006 5:45:32 AM PST by Maneesh (A non-hyphenated American.)
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To: DCBandita
Do the Catholic's constuents and their viewpoints matter? After all - this person was elected as a representative whose job is to represent his/her constituents. If they don't want action against abortion rights, is it ok for that person to impose his/her will in defiance of those who put him/her there? The job is about representing constituents. Yet the pro-life movement doesn't want to make it about that, because the constituency wants abortion legal but regulated.

Perhaps it should be put on the ballot for everyone to vote on. Hmmmm. I wonder why it hasn't been.

580 posted on 11/15/2006 5:45:50 AM PST by beckysueb
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