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Why Conservatives Lost
townhall.com ^ | November 9, 2006 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 11/10/2006 7:27:00 PM PST by outofstyle

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1 posted on 11/10/2006 7:27:00 PM PST by outofstyle
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To: outofstyle

bump


2 posted on 11/10/2006 7:27:38 PM PST by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: outofstyle

I don't accept the premise of the title of this piece. Conservatives as a whole did not lose here. Republicans did. Conservatives have suffered a setback, but nothing that can't be overcome.


3 posted on 11/10/2006 7:28:48 PM PST by perfect_rovian_storm ( Churchill was rebuffed too before he led his people to victory. Rick Santorum in 08!!)
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To: outofstyle

Unfortunately, character only applies to conservatives. Liberals can be completely bereft of character, and their sycophants will always rally to their defense.


4 posted on 11/10/2006 7:30:49 PM PST by My2Cents
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I agree.


5 posted on 11/10/2006 7:31:53 PM PST by outofstyle
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To: outofstyle
Colson, what a self-righteous dope. By his logic America should have stood down in WWII. After all the Nazis may have been murdering people by the millions, but after all, we had Jim Crow laws in the South. Who were we to speak of the morality of racial equality?

Sheesh! Fools like Colson are going to get us all killed.

6 posted on 11/10/2006 7:32:40 PM PST by trek
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To: outofstyle

oooh this rather hurts, but I definitely agree.


7 posted on 11/10/2006 7:32:50 PM PST by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: outofstyle

I don't think that Mark Foley caused this election result.


8 posted on 11/10/2006 7:33:16 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

I don't feel that I lost. We ousted an RINO and replaced him with a conservative. 3 of 4 ballot proposals went my way (Including the important affirmative action ban) I'm still stuck with the same democrat Governor and senator but I feel that I've gained in some ways.


9 posted on 11/10/2006 7:33:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

You're right.


10 posted on 11/10/2006 7:33:56 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: trek

I don't think he is suggesting that we stand down. He is suggesting that we stand up.


11 posted on 11/10/2006 7:34:02 PM PST by outofstyle
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To: outofstyle

Conservatives didn't "lose". Conservatives have suffered a painful but necessary amputation of putrid flesh. We will have to wait and see if we need to cut out more.


12 posted on 11/10/2006 7:35:34 PM PST by Dreagon
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
"I don't accept the premise of the title of this piece. Conservatives as a whole did not lose here."

Have got to agree with you. Had Republicans been conservative all along, they would have had no problem. This all started from the top of the Administration. It turned off a lot of voters, who just didn't bother to show up. The Democrats won nothing. They even ran as conservatives. Republicans have not been listening to their base for sometime. It cost them!

What will be interesting now is how the Democrats are going to govern. Will they expose who they really are?

13 posted on 11/10/2006 7:36:45 PM PST by TheLion
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To: trek
Before you can fix a problem you must first admit the problem exists.. Like treatment in AA...

So...

Hello, My name is Matthew and I'm a Conservative Republican.. Lets start there,
Now lets think about what we did to get voted out of office and go from there
14 posted on 11/10/2006 7:39:59 PM PST by dcrider182 (Col. Dean R. Hiatt.. WWII Hero. LC.Cpl. Brad Shuder. 9-11 Hero.. you are both loved and missed)
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To: outofstyle

You don't have to apologize for being a conservative, Chuck. Cunningham and Ney are thieves and Foley is a pedophile. Greed and lust know no party. I agree now is a brief time for soul-searching. In my case, never again will I assume a Republican leader shares my values or concerns. I will vote for some of them, but I will never trust them. That's what conservatism is all about: creating institutions that can minimize human weakness rather than allowing it to flourish. That's why our system divides and shares powers.


15 posted on 11/10/2006 7:40:00 PM PST by Man of the Right
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
You wrote, "Conservatives as a whole did not lose here. Republicans did."

I suppose had the Republican Party held its own in the recent election, you would've been celebrating a conservative victory.

The Republican Party is the party of conservatism--or, better defined, the only means by which conservative thought may be implemented into national policy. Whatever else they might be, Libertarians are not conservatives, Pat Buchanan 'paleocons' are not conservatives, and those right-leaning third parties who garner maybe 2000 votes nationwide? Who knows, they may be conservatives, but are too inconsequential to matter.
16 posted on 11/10/2006 7:40:42 PM PST by Rembrandt_fan
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To: My2Cents

Very true, however, there are more of us than there are sycophants on the left, and a good portion of our office holders left the Conservative farm. To me, losing the House and Senate is bad, but losing Santorum and Allen specifically hurts more. Not from a "nominee" standpoint, but because they are Conservative through and through. With any luck we can get more Tom Coburns and Mike Pences in office, going forward. They will stay Conservative.


17 posted on 11/10/2006 7:41:15 PM PST by Bi-ped Carbon Unit ("...Hindsight alone is not wisdom, and second guessing is not a strategy." GWB)
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To: kinoxi
I don't think that Mark Foley caused this election result.

Certainly not the Foley scandal by itself, but it did give the MSM a huge club by which to clobber us incessantly, and to grind to a halt the momentum that the republicans were picking up. The irony is that kind of behavior (Foley and pages) is standard operating procedure on the democratic side, but when republicans are caught, its a much bigger scandal.
18 posted on 11/10/2006 7:42:03 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

That was my take as well. By definition, the reason that we lost is that we were not conservatives.


19 posted on 11/10/2006 7:42:11 PM PST by The Worthless Miracle (I think Jamie Dupree is annoying.)
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To: TheLion

Yes. The 'Rats have already started to take off their masks.


20 posted on 11/10/2006 7:42:45 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Sic Semper Tyrannis * Allen for U.S. Senate in '08)
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