Posted on 11/09/2006 7:27:35 AM PST by waimea.man
Bush to make statement with his cabinet in Rose Garden at 11:35 AM...
You are wasting your time telling the Bushbots the facts. Any criticism of Bush is "whining", etc. He can do no wrong, don'tcha know? Also, if you criticize Bush, you didn't vote, and YOU are the reason for the losses.
Well, Hamas has never seen a full blown Nascar Jihad either.
There is a well-known adage: "Politics is the art of compromise". Ask any successful politician. Compromise isn't fatal, but selling out is.
Another well-known saying: "People who don't vote have no right to complain."
YOU can't figure this out and you're calling ME an idiot. Feh.
No wonder we lost.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1735568/posts?page=306#306
This was my original reply, and you might be interested in reading it.
"I for one do not relish the idea of living under the Democrat thumb for the next 40 years."
If Bush gets the amnesty he wants, that will be our fate.
Now you're talking. Let's get to work.
Agree with both of you. We need to start working right now to give the American people a reason to vote for Republicans in 2008. We had some good candidates go down to defeat because of lack of message of NRSC, NRCC, and RNC. Trying to scare people why to vote for Republicans was the wrong tactic.
If any of you were involved in GOTV door hanging, want your opinion of the door hangar. I thought it was the wrong message especially in OK where we didn't have a Senate race. Using Kerry, Clinton, Kennedy, Dean on the entire hangar didn't get us any votes and in some of our precincts in the County I told them not to hand them out in close races where we needed Dem votes.
These door hangars didn't get us a vote and in fact, I got tracked down by some Republicans where we put them on the door to complain it was the wrong message because it was a scare tactic.
A statement of one of the reasons to vote Republican:
Howard Dean will make abortions more common.
Hope this explains to some on here why I am thoroughly disgusted with the leadership in the Repubican Party. Some of you need to open up your minds and listen to what people are saying instead of blindly following along. You don't win elections by the same old rhetoric, you win elections with a message that is pounded home day after day in districts around the Country.
There are some good ideas being bandied about by Freepers some of you won't pay attention to but you should. Too much of my way or no way on here after the election and before. Time for reasonable people to work together and come up with a clear message. We are various type of conservatives from fiscal to social and points in between, but if we don't learn to work together, then how can we ask people to allow us to govern. Ronald Reagan always said if you agree with someone 80% of the time, then that's enough. Time some of you think about that and quit alienating people you don't like. I have been just as guilty as anyone but we are in trouble if we keep on this track.
I have supported Pres Bush longer than most people on here because I got out and worked like a lot of other Texans for his 1994 Governor's campaign, but I draw the line about this election. The adoration of Karl Rove went so far overboard that I wanted to gag and I like the man.
There are no excuses because the Republican Party did not give voters a reason to keep them in power in close races and this door hangar was an example of poor planning. The MSM was against us but they have been for years so nothing has changed. You don't blindly follow anyone and make excuses which I am seeing on here. I have seen some good remarks from people on this site that get to the heart of the problem and there should be no excuses that a louzy campaign was run in a lot of areas.
In my state we had some pretty lame candidates running statewide that once again could not get on message. We kept the OK House for the first time back to back and only 3rd time in history and tied the OK Senate for the first time in history after 100 years of total Dim rule in the OK Senate. Why did our Reps/Senators do so well -- they had a message and vision for a better Oklahoma.
You give voters a message and they will respond. The door hangar that was designed by the RNC was a scare tactic and had no message that would attract voters. Waste of money. My more than two cents!
Absolutely true. And you are also right about Missouri. He inserted himself and all of his negative baggage in a way that was of no help at all. If the Republicans were rallying around Kerry's remarks, so were the Democrats around Limbaugh's.
probably not
one big family?
certainly not
But thank goodness, we have a mature president who can lead through difficult times. We did without one for eight loooong years in the 1990s and I for one am so grateful that we have maturity in there now. The political reality is that we have to work more closely with the dems. The good news is that they have more conservatives within their own ranks and must work with them. The president seems to get that the dems must now perform.
I don't believe said it quite that way...
Rush is being successful if he makes folks think. The same for any political pundit.
Independents are good citizens but usually don't pay attention to the day to day politics and only start right before elections. And they can be swayed by a single issue. Having a Republican party that can speak to our values with out appearing as hypocrites with the likes of Foley, Ney, etc. will be to our benefit. Again, with the media being the way it is and the Rats looking to keep hold of their gains by anyway possible, it will be a hard slog in the future. But recognizing that independents will be the key to future elections and keeping our own skirts clean will bring the sucess.
I don't believe said it quite that way...
should be:
I don't believe *he* said it quite that way...
I'm not abandoning the President, certainly not in terms of our troops. But ~politically~ it is increasingly hard to stand with him.
The libs say that they back our troops. However, they hate the troops CIC, who is admired and supported by a large majority of our troops.
Read about the kangaroo trial our four warriors, who may have killed Tillman with friendly fire. Similiar trials will be coming to the senate and house with rats like Murtha, Drubin, Kennedy, Jon Carry leading these war crime trials. When that happens, our volunteer military will become history.
IMO, the Presidents plan is to go first and lead the way, altered though that may be. If he sits on his hands, the Dems will go out front and W will be on the defensive.
I would also offer that I believe the immigration issue is where we lost the middle. I think the base voted Republican. There was no "referendum on Iraq", otherwise we would have lost 40+ seats by wide margins. I think we lost the middle voters (that gave the Republicans majorities in the past) because they did not seek compromise on immigration. Quite simply, the threat of making 12-20 million immigrants felons was viewed as extreme and scared the middle back to the center-right candidates the Democrats ran in most districts we lost seats in.
Maybe he feels like he got kicked in the gut by us. Maybe has no choice but to accept the decision of the electorate and make the best decisions for our country. Maybe he HAS to work with the people that WE elected to Congress, or at least to try to do so. Maybe he took an oath to that effect. Maybe he takes it seriously.
Maybe he is not able to cry and wring his hands and give up. Maybe he is making the best of it, even when he is dealt another horrible blow. Maybe he needs our prayers and our support, and not our scorn and abandonment.
Maybe he is honest, and committed to stay the course. That's what I'm banking on.
Probably suicide bombers, hijacked planes, truck bombs, IED attacks, individual whackjobs throwing an armed nutter, you know, the usual.
They don't have B2's and I doubt they even have a B52's CD.
Some serious time for reflection before making decisions about how we go forward is surely in order, and our self-criticism should not be about blame - surely we all can share that - but about what is the right thing to do in the future.
I remind everyone who wants to start shooting at various Republicans that it was Ronald Reagan who said the 11th Commandment is Thou shalt not speak ill of another Republican.
It was sound advice in 1964 after the Goldwater debacle and it's sound advice today.
Disagree with one another on policy? sure. Argue passionately, but about issues? sure. But, attack other Republicans personally? No. Not ever. No matter how angry you are. It just helps our political opponents and, more importantly, America's enemies.
It's important to remember conservative principles, but even more important to remember that there will be times that you have to convince people who do not hold those principles to vote for candidates who will, on the whole, be more inclined to conservative solutions than not. Who will support conservative leaders.
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