Posted on 10/31/2006 1:12:06 PM PST by presidio9
It's the only piece of the World Trade Center still standing where it was before terrorists destroyed the twin towers.
But the "survivors' staircase," a path to safety for countless workers on September 11th, 2001, will be moved -- to build one of five planned office towers on the site.
Preservationists, including a group that named the staircase one of America's most endangered places this year, are lobbying to keep the only standing remnant of the destroyed trade center complex where it is.
A final home for the The 21-foot-high, 350-thousand-pound staircase, which once connected an elevated plaza to a street north of the site, still isn't decided.
Historians had hoped it would be returned to the same spot where survivors of the terrorist attacks found it in a debris-filled plaza, following the stairs from a bridge to street level just before the second tower collapsed.
Later on, AQ goes nuclear and takes you out, and we finish it anyway.
What would you like for your epitaph? "AQ Got Over Me"?
Or how about, "I Dropped Out Early On"?
The old Latin one is pretty laid-back:
Non fui
Fui
Non sum
Non curo.
That would probably be cool enough for a future New Yorker cover.
What does my observation have to do with AQ going nuclear and taking me out? I explicitly said we should avenge our murdered brothers and sisters. I said we will win the war.
What is your problem?
That's what I mean.
Trump's right. Build the towers, give AQ nothing.
Concede nothing. We want the old New York skyline back, because it was never AQ's business to alter it. I don't care if we use both buildings for ashtrays. Rent them out to Donna Karan for walkin closet space. Just build them.
Who is praising the enemy? It's just a statement of fact. Anything less is immaturity and even denial.
I have no problem recognizing my wins and losses.
I'm not rooting for the enemy, not at all. If we can;t recognize 911 as a defeat, what is it? It's certainly not a victory for us. And it's certainly wasn't 'nothing.'
I see what you are saying, but that's a criticism better suited to enablers in the media who advance enemy propaganda, like CNN and the sniper film. Calling a spade a spade gives a person clarity of vision. That's to be encouraged, not discouraged.
I honestly don;t know what any clear minded adult would consider 911 except a defeat. Not a final defeat. Not our surrender. But a defeat for us and a victory for the enemy. Anything else just smacks of denial and immaturity.
Did you know that Anarchists bombed Wall Street on September 16, 1920? Should we have built a memorial?
Puerto Rican Seperatists bombed Fraunces Tavern a couple of blocks away in 1975? Should we have built a memorial.
Comumbine High School is open for business. Life goes on.
Morbidity accomplishes nothing, and Manhattan real estate is not empty space in Pearl Harbor.
I know all that stuff happened. But the scope and extent of damage, as well as the influence of the 911 attacks, puts it in a class by itself.
I think I've figured out your problem. You live in Las Vegas, where land is generally cheap and plentiful. Ground Zero occupies an enormous space on a very tiny island. Devoting the entire space to a memorial is an idiotic suggestion. Thankfully, very few of the families of WTC victims agree with you. Your next dumb plan will involve closing down the outer rings of the Pentagon, I guess.
I was born and raised about a mile from WTC in downtown Manhattan, and lived there for 33+ years. Whatever you figured out, it was wrong.
My suggestion isn't idiotic. In fact, if I was inspired to make the criticism personal I'd be tempted to call your flawed figuring about my problem as pretty compelling evidence of your idiocy, but thankfully I'm just not that kind of guy.
I suppose Central Park is a big waste of space, too.
That you for your contributions to the average IQ here on FR. It's valued. Oh yes, your insights speak volumes.
Back to the slide rule for more figuring for you, I suppose. Thanks for playing.
Exactly. We have one. And Prospect Park, and Van Cortlandt Park, and as a matter of fact, there is a great park a block away along the Hudson River. The area where the WTC sat is reclaimed land, and it doesn't need to be wasted as a park. Again, every person that died there already has his or her own memorial. Wasting a huge chunk of lower Manhattan won't bring any of them back. And you really need to work on your comprehension of the term "personal attacks." I never said you were dumb. I said the idea of devoting the entire WTC site to a memorial was dumb. You're the only one making personal attacks here bubba.
Um, professor, it's not exactly YOUR idea. Liberal nutballs everywhere have been saying the same thing practically since the second plane hit. It's an idiotic idea that you seem to like. Please try to understand the concept. I criticized the idea (which is not yours), not you.
Go build your super-tall building, Flash. Makes up for all sorts of psychological hangups. A big, tall, powerful erection in the sky makes some folks feel better about more personal shortcomings, I will grant you that.
Trust me on this one: I spend very little time thinking about the size of my penis. If you actually DID ever live in Manhattan, you'd certainly understand that Manhattan and Hong Kong's unique geographic restrictions make them the only two major cities in the world where skyscrapesrs make sense. You can't build out, so you have to build up. The results are breathtaking skylines which adults and non-liberals everywhere have been inspired by since the invention of the lightbulb, and probably before.
Come on, how does that big shaft cutting into the sky make you feel?
You seem a heck of a lot more preoccupied with the imagery than I am.
It's you who wants the big powerful tall building, not me. I want a tasteful memorial park, that's all.
A tasteful park remembering the murdered people of 911 makes me feel inspired to avenge them.
That's all.
My point is that you seem to see a tall building and immediately think "penis," and you are confused when other people don't share your arousal. Sounds to me like you're the one with the problem.
What else makes you think of penises?
I just want clarity - it's you who is hot for the big erection downtown, not me.
Look you probably also think about penises when you put a banana or a hot dog in your mouth. Force of habit I guess. Normal, sexually secure adults do not. Sorry to break this one to you Dr. Freud.
I never mentioned penises once, pal. You have mentioned it quite a bit. Well, there you go.
Forgive me for picking up to the tired liberal referrences to "compensation" and "hangups" motivating skyscraper "erections." Perhaps I was giving you too much credit. Maybe you really are stupid after all, and your use of those terms was merely coincidental?
I agree, it's possible that I am stupid. :-)
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