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TOWNSHEND NO FOOL FOR MICHAEL MOORE
World Entertainment News Network ^ | 10/31/06

Posted on 10/31/2006 8:16:08 AM PST by presidio9

PETE TOWNSHEND refused to let documentary maker MICHAEL MOORE use THE WHO's WON'T GET FOOLED AGAIN in his FAHRENHEIT 9/11 film because he didn't want the anthem to become an anti-PRESIDENT GEORGE W BUSH song. The rocker claims the tune has been misinterpreted many times and he didn't want to add to the confusion by letting Moore use the song against Bush. He tells Rolling Stone magazine, "When ROGER (DALTREY) sang it, suddenly it became almost an anthem of the counterculturalists. "You say to somebody, 'I'm not doing it,' and they hear you say, 'I'm doing it.' Like, 'I'm not going to tell you President Bush is a bad man.' And people go, 'Oh, OK, so President Bush is a bad man.' Let me tell you again, 'He f**king is not a f**king bad man, you f**king idiot!' "The debates I had back and forward through HARVEY WEINSTEIN (producer) with MICHAEL MOORE were beyond belief. He wanted to use my song Won't Get Fooled Again. "I said to Harvey, 'The guy wants to misuse the misuse of the song.' It's not political or partisan or parochial." The rock anthem is now the theme to TV hit CSI: MIAMI.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fahrenheit911; harveyweinstein; michaelmoore; neutralpedophiles; petetownshend; rogerdaltrey; thewho; wontgetfooledagain
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To: Skooz
Jacko was not cleared of any charges. He was found not guilty by a jury.

Being found "not guilty" by a jury equals getting cleared of the charges. Pleading guilty in return for a reduced sentence equals being guilty.

121 posted on 10/31/2006 9:19:40 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: BluesDuke
Third word: The Who Sell Out. It may be their most underrated album.

I agree. Sell Out is a fantastic pop album. The flat-out rock of I Can See for Miles, the acoustic beauty of Sunrise, the musical themes in Rael that would later be fully realized in Tommy. I was telling my son just the other day that Sell Out is their most underappreciated, Who's Next is their "greatest," and Quadrophenia is their "best"--in fact, I'd stack Quad up against anything else out there as the best rock and roll album of all time.
122 posted on 10/31/2006 9:20:15 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: oyez

Pete didn't care much for "Greasers" either. Sometimes it's easy to forget how segmented "youth culture" was . . . and is.


123 posted on 10/31/2006 9:21:59 AM PST by Oratam
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To: philled

I assumed it was a love song to Margaret Thatcher!


124 posted on 10/31/2006 9:23:56 AM PST by Oratam
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To: drjimmy; BluesDuke; Steve_Seattle

For something really strange, but to me quite amazing, check out Petra Haden's one-woman a capella version of The Who Sell Out. I Can See For Miles is just incredible. She's touring the county now with her group, The Sell-Outs. Townshend, by the way, called the effort "exquisite", though Roger reportedly didn't like it.


125 posted on 10/31/2006 9:25:21 AM PST by babble-on
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To: presidio9
Being found "not guilty" by a jury equals getting cleared of the charges.

Being found "not guilty" by a jury equals the prosecution not providing enough evidence for a jury to vote for a conviction. It is not the same as being cleared of all charges. It means the prosecution did not make its case beyond all reasonable doubt.

Being found innocent by a jury, or the prosecution dropping all charges beforehand because they know the case to be fallacious, is being cleared of all charges.

I used to watch Perry Mason. And Owen Marshall: Counselor at Law.

126 posted on 10/31/2006 9:28:37 AM PST by Skooz (<---- Bible-thumping fundamentalist, known to the media as a "theocon")
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To: BelegStrongbow

Pete Townsend ping.


127 posted on 10/31/2006 9:34:11 AM PST by Alia
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To: babble-on
For something really strange, but to me quite amazing, check out Petra Haden's one-woman a capella version of The Who Sell Out. I Can See For Miles is just incredible.

I bought that CD for my son last year. I Can See for Miles is by far the best of the bunch on that one. The CD cover is a nice take-off on the original.


128 posted on 10/31/2006 9:35:24 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: presidio9

I thought that a reference to Petey being a convicted hemophiliac would end the hijacking of the thread. But no, the obsessed are possessed! This national obsession with 'pedophilia', while we continue to refer to pederasty itself using a synonym of 'merriment', is sicker than sick. Get a life.


129 posted on 10/31/2006 9:36:12 AM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Skooz
Being found innocent by a jury, or the prosecution dropping all charges beforehand because they know the case to be fallacious, is being cleared of all charges.

Hey, super. But since that does not appear to allply to either situation, it is an irrelevant point.

130 posted on 10/31/2006 9:40:04 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: presidio9

The prosecution dropped all charges beforehand.

But, believe what you want. I'm having to good a day to argue with anyone about it.


131 posted on 10/31/2006 9:41:45 AM PST by Skooz (<---- Bible-thumping fundamentalist, known to the media as a "theocon")
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To: Skooz

Show me some proof that the charges were dropped. I alrady showed some indicating that he was let off with a caution in return for pleading guilty.

Pete freely admits that he was googling kiddie porn. Whether you accept his explaination is up to you. The point is he's guilty and he admits as much.

The fact that you're having such a great day is further proof that ignorance is bliss I guess...


132 posted on 10/31/2006 9:46:48 AM PST by presidio9 (Make Mohammed's day: Shoot a nun in the back.)
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To: philled
I could never quite get my head around the lyrics to Athena (pro v. anti nuke).

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I believe "Athena" has nothing to do with nukes. Here is the story according to Wikipedia: "The first track, 'Athena,' is one of the few songs that was well received on It's Hard. The demo version was called 'Theresa,' named after actress Theresa Russell. It was written after Pete Townshend had met Russell and promptly fell for her, only to be rejected the next day. His frustration of her not reciprocating his love is expressed in this song, which he renamed 'Athena' as to hide who the song was really about.

Many years ago, I had actually heard a different meaning to the song, that it is about Pete's daughter Aminta (again with the name changed). BTW, saying something is "the bomb" means that it is exceptionally cool or great. I think it is British slang imported to the U.S. in the 70s.
133 posted on 10/31/2006 9:46:54 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: Skooz

I've been a semi pro Bassist for a little over 20 years and I was a teen when "Talk Dirty" came out. The first time I heard it on the radio, I pulled over the car in shock, lol. Yeah, John's bass lines were more of a kind of "lead Bass" as opposed to just pumping root notes with the drummer. I suppose playing along with Keith Moon had a little to do with it,lol. He always liked to mix in some distortion in his signal, not too many Bassists were doing that back then. And he ALWAYS made it look so easy too, lol.


134 posted on 10/31/2006 9:51:28 AM PST by The Bass Player (" I can't think of anything witty, yet,,,but, when I do, I'll let y'all know":))
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To: Oratam

The song "Uniforms" on "Chinese Eyes" I think expresses Pete's ultimate views on the whole Mod vs. Rocker thing.


135 posted on 10/31/2006 9:57:20 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: BluesDuke
Third word: The Who Sell Out. It may be their most underrated album . . . and it just might be the best of their concept albums. Might. The pleasures merely begin with "I Can See For Miles" . . .

A classic, no doubt. I always liked Odds & Sods. Both albums have Glow Girl, one of my favorites that brings back memories of my careless youth. Pure and Easy and Long Live Rock are also on Odds. And some wicked drumming by Keith Moon on Little Billy.

136 posted on 10/31/2006 10:06:27 AM PST by One_American
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To: onedoug; stylecouncilor

ping


137 posted on 10/31/2006 10:07:00 AM PST by windcliff
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To: rightinthemiddle
"Let me tell you again, 'He f**king is not a f**king bad man, you f**king idiot!'

I'm sure Dubya 'preciates the sentiment, if not the delivery, Pete.

Works for me. I understand far better a fierce spirit than a political mind.

138 posted on 10/31/2006 10:09:32 AM PST by Prime Choice (VOTE RINO! There's plenty of room for more knives in your back.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
. . . and "Tattoo" might be their most underrated song.

For their most underrated song I'd put that in a dead heat with "Odorono" and "Relax," from the same album.

139 posted on 10/31/2006 10:10:27 AM PST by BluesDuke (My schizophrenic career has made my life no bed of neuroses.---Goodman Ace.)
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To: SittinYonder

Wow...$200. I saw The Who in Seattle in 1979 or 1980. Kenny Jones was drumming. Awesome show.


140 posted on 10/31/2006 10:13:00 AM PST by GATOR NAVY
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