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Kriss 'was alive' while on fire (Muslims accused of racially aggravated murder in Scotland)
The BBC ^ | 10/23/06 | BBC

Posted on 10/23/2006 2:36:01 PM PDT by BronzePencil

Schoolboy Kriss Donald was still alive when he was on fire, a court has heard. Forensic scientist Ruth Ramage, 43, said he may have tried to extinguish the flames by rolling in mud on the Clyde walkway in Glasgow.

The 15-year-old's body was found by the walkway, near London Road on 16 March 2004, a day after he disappeared.

At the High Court in Edinburgh Mohammed Faisal Mushtaq, 27, Zeeshan Shahid, 28, and his brother Imran Shahid 29, deny racially aggravated murder.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 2004; crime; donald; enemywithin; eurabia; fifthcolumn; islam; jihad; koranimals; kriss; krissdonald; muslim; muslims; religionofmurder; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; scotland; swine; trop; uk
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To: Colorado Doug
Islam needs to be driven back from where it came from.

I guess that would be back up mohammed's a$$. Forgive my language but this sort of thing makes me angry. Every government should just declare an open season on islam. One week should just about do it.

21 posted on 10/23/2006 2:55:58 PM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: MadIvan

I don't know about the English having the temper to do much to the muslims. I do know from personal experience what the Scots are capable of. In Korea, the Scots played their pipes going into battle, after a few encounters with the Scots, the Chinese and N. Koreans would disappear when they heard the pipes. Being of a Scottish heritage and my Roomey being of the same, we've come to learn, it's not a good idea to push to the point of angering a Scot.

Hopefully there are enough Americans of Scottish heritage to stop the PC Bull when it comes to muslims.


22 posted on 10/23/2006 2:56:44 PM PDT by tillacum (There's a time for compromise.............. It's called..............Later.)
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To: Ramius

"That's not a fair comparison to real savages. The American Indians fought as savages, and desperately so. But even they had a basic sense of honor that is completely missing from these ROP vermin"


Actually the fate that 15 year old faced was an easy death compared to the fate of many boys and girls that were tortured slowly to death by native Americans.

Babies were sometimes thrown into cactus to die slow agonizing deaths and a 13 year old girl might be the cause of a full days delay of an Indian military unit while they killed her in in a long torture session for entertainment.


23 posted on 10/23/2006 3:01:26 PM PDT by ansel12 ( sin holds a sway over their lives to the point where boldness begins to be craved.)
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To: MadIvan

The civilized man, when acting upon the release of propriety, often will terrorize the barbarian with their savagery. For once the mind releases the cloak of civilization, there remains no control, no restriction, no barrier that will stop such a man until the full wrath of anger is spent.


24 posted on 10/23/2006 3:03:36 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: BronzePencil
Any word from the peanut gallery, er uh, local Muslim groups?

My guess is that they are extremely shocked about this incident and send their prayers and hope that these brutes are punished to the fullest extent of the law. /sarc
25 posted on 10/23/2006 3:04:14 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: Constitutions Grandchild
"...and just WHAT would several devout Muslims being doing at a bar? I'm confused, just as I was confused that the devout Muslims were at a strip club drinking scotch whiskey the night before they flew jets into the Trade Towers."

When you are on jihad you can do most anything. Drugs, prostitutes, little boys. Pretty much anything you want is permitted. Convenient isn't it?

26 posted on 10/23/2006 3:05:32 PM PDT by bluetone006 (Peace - or I guess war if given no other option)
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To: BronzePencil

The Scots won't take this well. Unsheath the claymores.


27 posted on 10/23/2006 3:08:52 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: MadIvan
I think you are right. The British have proven their basic valor many times over from WWI back to the really brutal Scottish/English wars.

The only problem I see is before long they will be in a minority in their own country.

28 posted on 10/23/2006 3:09:37 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: tillacum

Aye. "Claymore" isn't just a handful of C4 and ball bearings.


29 posted on 10/23/2006 3:09:39 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
We need to understand why they hate us - surely there is something we can do to hate us a little bit less, at the very least.

You DID forget the 'sarc', right?

cause if you didn't, then you better cover your ears, because this little ole great grannie has some words for you ...

30 posted on 10/23/2006 3:10:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: yarddog
There are 1.6 million Muslims out of a population of 60 million in the UK - if the 58 million or so Britons decide to rise up, that tiny minority will mean nothing.

Regards, Ivan

31 posted on 10/23/2006 3:12:47 PM PDT by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: ansel12
Actually the fate that 15 year old faced was an easy death compared to the fate of many boys and girls that were tortured slowly to death by native Americans. Babies were sometimes thrown into cactus to die slow agonizing deaths and a 13 year old girl might be the cause of a full days delay of an Indian military unit while they killed her in in a long torture session for entertainment. Posting HTML This forum allows optional use of most HTML tags. If your post does not contain HTML, it will be converted to HTML when posted, retaining paragraphs as typed. This conversion is not performed if you have anything resembling an HTML tag in your text.

Oh yes, the 'savages' - of course, we all know that no such atrocities were committed against them by 'US" - (sarc on you)

32 posted on 10/23/2006 3:13:29 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7

I'm as un-PC as you are - have no fear.


33 posted on 10/23/2006 3:13:45 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
;o)
34 posted on 10/23/2006 3:16:24 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." Lincoln)
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To: ansel12
He has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions. - Declaration of Independence
35 posted on 10/23/2006 3:17:39 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: MadIvan
I have no idea what the composition of the UK is but I know the number who can trace their ancestors back to the McAlpins or maybe Norse or Saxon, or Angles or O'Brians is not even close to what it once was.

The Muzzies are not the only ones giving trouble.

36 posted on 10/23/2006 3:19:44 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: MadIvan

The Islamics would do well to remember that no people have such a rich and varied history of industrialized mass murder when it comes to doing away with their enemies or minority groups which have outlived their utility, or their welcome, than the white Europeans and their American descendents.

From the the Crusades to the massive world wars of the last century, White Europeans are on the forefront of killing technology, and the will to use it, whenever they feel they must.

And they will find ways to justify it if the islamics keep up their push for world domination.


The Islamics would do well to remember what we have been capable of in the past.



37 posted on 10/23/2006 3:21:19 PM PDT by Species8472 (We will never forget !)
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To: maine-iac7
I don't think so

Indian Wars

38 posted on 10/23/2006 3:24:23 PM PDT by Popman ("What I was doing wasn't living, it was dying. I really think God had better plans for me.")
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To: BronzePencil

Have the Brits appologised yet for so angering the muslims?


39 posted on 10/23/2006 3:27:21 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: MadIvan

To quote Dryden, "beware the fury of a patient man."


40 posted on 10/23/2006 3:30:30 PM PDT by Dark Skies ("He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that" ... John Stuart Mill)
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