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To: SmithL

I may be in the minority here but I see nothing wrong with the state trying to recover some of the care costs of patients. It's taking nothing from the patients, only their heirs and at that, only money that's owed to the state.


2 posted on 10/23/2006 10:29:40 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for SSgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

Me, neither.


7 posted on 10/23/2006 10:32:49 AM PDT by the Real fifi
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To: Graybeard58

While I see your point, it's still sad when you consider that these folks probably played by the rules their whole lives and yet are still in a position to lose their home. While many in this country use medical services for free and no one goes after their heirs or family members.


10 posted on 10/23/2006 10:35:21 AM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Graybeard58
I see nothing wrong with the state trying to recover some of the care costs of patients

Me neither...but I would indeed be concerned about how they tally the amounts - undoubtedly just like hospitals, racking up $40.00 for a pair of disposable bedroom slippers, etc., etc.

My sibs and I are facing this with my parents right now - altho we're not quite at the point where they're institutionalized yet....be it either the current caregivers or "the home", they'll run out of funds - except for their home - in around three years.

21 posted on 10/23/2006 10:45:33 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: Graybeard58

I agree. The so called family home is the property of the person being cared for. I don't know why the taxpayer is more obligated for their care than they are.
susie


24 posted on 10/23/2006 10:47:27 AM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: Graybeard58

I agree with you. There is nothing more damaging to the well-being of a free society than the delusional notion that "someone else" will pay for everything we need in life.


44 posted on 10/23/2006 10:56:30 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: Graybeard58

This is the last big issue with health care. Since your home is basically your biggest savings asset....I believe that if the government is taking care of you, they have a right to it. There's a whole industry set up to make sure the elderly do not lose their homes when they need to pay for their healthcare. IT'S WRONG.


74 posted on 10/23/2006 11:19:15 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Graybeard58

"I may be in the minority here but I see nothing wrong with the state trying to recover some of the care costs of patients"




was same way in MO with my folks


80 posted on 10/23/2006 11:27:14 AM PDT by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Graybeard58

I see a lot wrong, when the state interferes with patients choices as to when to die. If someone would rather leave the family home to the next generation, and die a few months earlier via assisted suicide, tough. The government says you have to stay alive whether you want to or not, and it will decide what medical care you must receive at a minimum, and it will hire unionized healthcare workers to deliver the care you don't want, and then it will take your family home after you die on the grounds that "you owe the government". 50% of our nation's colossal health care tab is spent on the last 6 months of life, in many cases on patients who are so demented that they don't even know who they are. It's absolutely insane, and refusal to face the real costs can't continue indefinitely.


87 posted on 10/23/2006 11:37:32 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Graybeard58

I agree with you.
The lesson is: a government that is powerful enough to give you everything (including long term care) it is strong enough to take everything.
Get 'long term health insurance' and keep the state out of it.
Assets of only $1500 allowed to receive any government benefits like these here in Ohio.


99 posted on 10/23/2006 11:49:27 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: Graybeard58

>>>I may be in the minority here but I see nothing wrong with the state trying to recover some of the care costs of patients. It's taking nothing from the patients, only their heirs and at that, only money that's owed to the state.

I agree, as long as there are no minors.


129 posted on 10/23/2006 12:40:31 PM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: Graybeard58

You're not alone. Asset dumping in preparation of extended care for an elderly parent is a pervasive problem with Medicare, Medicaid, and I guess even Tenn Care. It is selfish and defeats the purpose of the program --- to care for people who CANNOT care for themselves. The rules for asset dumping are known, and those who don't even take time to read the rules, think of what's gonna happen to their parents deserve to be left out in the cold, so to speak. All their selfishness does is dump the burden of caring for their parents off on the rest of us...


135 posted on 10/23/2006 1:34:20 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Graybeard58
Go visit a nursing home. Smell the smells, look at the "care" they give. More than likely you'll be disgusted and pray for a early sudden death.

How we as a culture treat our parents and grandparents is a crime.

149 posted on 10/23/2006 4:24:40 PM PDT by steveo (ADVERTISEMENT)
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To: Graybeard58

The family could have helped pay the NH bill along with the parents SS check. But they did not want to do that. They could have mortaged the house and used to money and made house payments. People need to plan for these things. I bet the Son that got the home did not pay a dime to the NH for his parents care. I do understand the anguish however but most people think they will just get their neighbor to pay (taxes)and they will not have to.


157 posted on 10/23/2006 6:16:26 PM PDT by therut
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To: Graybeard58
Standard procedure in Ohio and I presume most if not all other states. Medicaid is a low-income subsidy, not an entitlement. There is nothing out of the ordinary in this story that I can see.
159 posted on 10/23/2006 6:26:42 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Graybeard58
If you mortgaged everything but your home to take care of your folks, yeah let 'em take it too. Its your fault you couldn't afford long-term elder care.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

176 posted on 10/25/2006 1:24:35 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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